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Well, wait. I've always said this too: it shouldn't matter how I dress. But the truth is that dress is very frequently an indicator of how aware one is. It's a
by embwbam 14y ago
Well, wait. I've always said this too: it shouldn't matter how I dress. But the truth is that dress is very frequently an indicator of how aware one is. It's a social consciousness that is sometimes reflected in other things (like being able to adapt to a new technology).
Look at this comic: http://xkcd.com/1139/ http://xkcd.com/1139/ - the playground jerks call the guy a loser because he isn't playing the social game. They are right that he is "losing" the social playground game. He doesn't care, but that's kind of what these startups are looking for.
- waterlesscloud 14y agoAre you seriously saying that keeping up with fashion is an indicator of being able to adapt to new tech?
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- AerieC 14y agoThey're not so different these days, especially in SV, I think. Apple, for one, has made itself on being a fashionable product. If one of a company's goals is to be fashionable, does it make sense to hire people who don't care about a core portion of the company's vision?
- 001sky 14y agothere's a correlation causation issue to consider. jobs wore black-t-necks to be anti-fashion ives is a designer, fan of colour etc. people that make fasion != people that follow it (or: victims, slaves, etc)
- radicalbyte 14y agoExactly, it's an indicator. At the CEO level, I'd argue that you must look for people who understand the value of understanding their target audience ("customer") and taking the low cost / low friction action required. Or, put simply, spend a couple of hours and $200 on cloths to look the part. What, exactly, do you think would happen to a 24 year old hotshot banker who goes to an interview at, say, Goldman Sachs wearing Bermuda shorts and a t-shirt?
- king_jester 14y ago> At the CEO level, I'd argue that you must look for people who understand the value of understanding their target audience ("customer") and taking the low cost / low friction action required. > Or, put simply, spend a couple of hours and $200 on cloths to look the part. Assembling a $200 wardrobe tailored to appeal to the innate biases of someone hiring based on the clothes you wear is not low cost, low friction, or even representative of many audiences for the kinds of software people write. Also, that you tie looking appropriate to spending a bunch of money on clothes is laughable and goes against startup culture in the first place (when you have little or no money, you mend and thrift your clothes). > What, exactly, do you think would happen to a 24 year old hotshot banker who goes to an interview at, say, Goldman Sachs wearing Bermuda shorts and a t-shirt? If your company is aspiring to the Goldman Sachs culture, I will never apply to or do business with it or you.
- Torgo 14y agoI'm not even that old, but cry me a river. My whole life I was told dress a certain way or you won't get hired. The world put up with it when it was old guys telling young guys they had to wear a suit. Now there's an older guy who says he can't get hired unless he dresses in jeans and sneakers. It's kind of funny but at least he's getting hired. Age discrimination against the young is still perfectly legal in the USA.
- rayiner 14y ago> If your company is aspiring to the Goldman Sachs culture, I will never apply to or do business with it or you. There are a lot of things to fault Goldman Sachs for, but they are a tremendously effective and efficient organization. Most startups should be so lucky to be so well-run.
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- strlen 14y ago> Look at this comic: http://xkcd.com/1139/ http://xkcd.com/1139/ - the playground jerks call the guy a loser because he isn't playing the social game. They are right that he is "losing" the social playground game. He doesn't care, but that's kind of what these startups are looking for. http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html