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> Most video is going to be AI in the near future That's like saying all fine art would be photography, all film would be CGI, or all music would be synthesize

> Most video is going to be AI in the near future That's like saying all fine art would be photography, all film would be CGI, or all music would be synthesized electronica. That's not how aesthetics seem to work. Artists will make more or less good use of generative AI in their work, and it will probably seep into most media in some way or another, effecting them, but arts mostly don't get replaced and AI doesn't really offer an exception to that history.

darkwater 4mo ago
There will also be a longer or shorter period of time in which such technology will be abused by artists (because it's new) and at some point it will stabilize.
criddell 4mo ago
> That's like saying all fine art would be photography Or is it like saying most portraits will be photographs rather than paintings? There are still a lot of portraits painted (maybe even as many as the pre-camera days), but by raw numbers most portraits are created by photographers.
echelon 4mo ago
It's saying most art will be created with AI. Like saying most pictures will be made with digital cameras. Like saying most music will be captured and edited digitally. You guys have an anti-AI bug and it's eating you alive and blinding you to the future that is unfolding. It's toxic and you're all 100% wrong. Your hate makes it impossible to see all of the improvements. I've been a filmmaker for decades. This tech is the most amazing thing I've ever witnessed. And it's just getting started. Stop being old men yelling at clouds. If you don't like it, you can continue doing things the way you're used to.
- vile_wretch 4mo ago
  It isn't like saying any of those things because they are referring to recording media and not to a pipe dream invented by tech bros to attract investors so that their deeply-in-the-red company can stay afloat a little while longer. AI can't create anything.
  - CamperBob2 4mo ago
    It isn't like saying any of those things because they are referring to recording media and not to a pipe dream invented by tech bros to attract investors so that their deeply-in-the-red company can stay afloat a little while longer. AI can't create anything. How do you know you aren't arguing with one now?
  - jiggawatts 4mo ago
    > AI can’t create anything Individuals are now making eight-minute movies with AI that are definitely wandering across the line of “watchable” into “entertaining”: https://youtu.be/gtnt84CDP-s https://youtu.be/gtnt84CDP-s
- coldtea 4mo ago
  >You guys have an anti-AI bug and it's eating you alive and blinding you to the future that is unfolding For the moment what is unfolding is a dystopia shoved down most people's throats, whether they want it or not. And the bug is obviously the "AI bug", a foreign body recently introduced. The "bug" can't be our default previous state (no AI). >I've been a filmmaker for decades. This tech is the most amazing thing I've ever witnessed. And it's just getting started Hopefully it will be over soon. >Stop being old men yelling at clouds You know that the leading AI providers and experts in the field often discuss how AI can/might/surely will wipe us off? Not some random guys with signs in some street corner. The main people behind it. Now, I don't believe it's so, at least not for the reasons mentioned, like the singularity. But there are very dark results from AI in society and in many domains. But hey, we can make pretty uncanny valley (for now) videos and special effects! No need to involve or employ humans in our art either. And the human art can be drowned in a sea of AI crap, so noone will really see our AI art either. Such amazing tech /s
  - jodrellblank 4mo ago
    > "shoved down most people's throats" Can you people PLEASE use an LLM to give you something creative and original to say instead of this thought-free copypasta? https://hn.algolia.com/?query=shove%20throat&sort=byDate&type=comment&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true https://hn.algolia.com/?query=shove%20throat&sort=byDate&typ...
- pjc50 4mo ago
  The quantity/quality tradeoff is horrific. And I speak as someone who's watched hundreds of low budget "B" movies. AI is going to allow churning out vastly more movies than anyone can ever watch. Even if some might be good, the average quality goes down, and the adverse selection problem of trying to decide if something is going to be worth committing two hours to becomes harder when you have to scroll for longer and longer distances. There's already a bit of a fatigue with CGI and the "flat lighting" Netflix TV style. AI is just going to make that worse. Mind you, I'm old enough that I would call any movie where more than 50% of the frame for more than 50% of the runtime was never real objects and created entirely on computer "animation". It's a subtly different discipline. But yes, there's going to be a lot of it, and it's going to rack up a lot of Netflix watch hours, in the same way that "4k crackling fireplace" does.
- mrhottakes 4mo ago
  It seems like you have trouble handling the idea that people disagree with you. You should try listening instead of immediately jumping to being reactionary.

darkwater 4mo ago

There will also be a longer or shorter period of time in which such technology will be abused by artists (because it's new) and at some point it will stabilize.

criddell 4mo ago

> That's like saying all fine art would be photography Or is it like saying most portraits will be photographs rather than paintings? There are still a lot of portraits painted (maybe even as many as the pre-camera days), but by raw numbers most portraits are created by photographers.

echelon 4mo ago

It's saying most art will be created with AI. Like saying most pictures will be made with digital cameras. Like saying most music will be captured and edited digitally. You guys have an anti-AI bug and it's eating you alive and blinding you to the future that is unfolding. It's toxic and you're all 100% wrong. Your hate makes it impossible to see all of the improvements. I've been a filmmaker for decades. This tech is the most amazing thing I've ever witnessed. And it's just getting started. Stop being old men yelling at clouds. If you don't like it, you can continue doing things the way you're used to.

vile_wretch 4mo ago
It isn't like saying any of those things because they are referring to recording media and not to a pipe dream invented by tech bros to attract investors so that their deeply-in-the-red company can stay afloat a little while longer. AI can't create anything.
- CamperBob2 4mo ago
  It isn't like saying any of those things because they are referring to recording media and not to a pipe dream invented by tech bros to attract investors so that their deeply-in-the-red company can stay afloat a little while longer. AI can't create anything. How do you know you aren't arguing with one now?
- jiggawatts 4mo ago
  > AI can’t create anything Individuals are now making eight-minute movies with AI that are definitely wandering across the line of “watchable” into “entertaining”: https://youtu.be/gtnt84CDP-s https://youtu.be/gtnt84CDP-s
coldtea 4mo ago
>You guys have an anti-AI bug and it's eating you alive and blinding you to the future that is unfolding For the moment what is unfolding is a dystopia shoved down most people's throats, whether they want it or not. And the bug is obviously the "AI bug", a foreign body recently introduced. The "bug" can't be our default previous state (no AI). >I've been a filmmaker for decades. This tech is the most amazing thing I've ever witnessed. And it's just getting started Hopefully it will be over soon. >Stop being old men yelling at clouds You know that the leading AI providers and experts in the field often discuss how AI can/might/surely will wipe us off? Not some random guys with signs in some street corner. The main people behind it. Now, I don't believe it's so, at least not for the reasons mentioned, like the singularity. But there are very dark results from AI in society and in many domains. But hey, we can make pretty uncanny valley (for now) videos and special effects! No need to involve or employ humans in our art either. And the human art can be drowned in a sea of AI crap, so noone will really see our AI art either. Such amazing tech /s
- jodrellblank 4mo ago
  > "shoved down most people's throats" Can you people PLEASE use an LLM to give you something creative and original to say instead of this thought-free copypasta? https://hn.algolia.com/?query=shove%20throat&sort=byDate&type=comment&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true https://hn.algolia.com/?query=shove%20throat&sort=byDate&typ...
pjc50 4mo ago
The quantity/quality tradeoff is horrific. And I speak as someone who's watched hundreds of low budget "B" movies. AI is going to allow churning out vastly more movies than anyone can ever watch. Even if some might be good, the average quality goes down, and the adverse selection problem of trying to decide if something is going to be worth committing two hours to becomes harder when you have to scroll for longer and longer distances. There's already a bit of a fatigue with CGI and the "flat lighting" Netflix TV style. AI is just going to make that worse. Mind you, I'm old enough that I would call any movie where more than 50% of the frame for more than 50% of the runtime was never real objects and created entirely on computer "animation". It's a subtly different discipline. But yes, there's going to be a lot of it, and it's going to rack up a lot of Netflix watch hours, in the same way that "4k crackling fireplace" does.
mrhottakes 4mo ago
It seems like you have trouble handling the idea that people disagree with you. You should try listening instead of immediately jumping to being reactionary.