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AMD just brought the popular 5800X3D back out of retirement to give people maintaining the DDR4 based platforms something to buy. Last I checked used DDR4 was h

AMD just brought the popular 5800X3D back out of retirement to give people maintaining the DDR4 based platforms something to buy. Last I checked used DDR4 was half the price of used DDR5 after the prices of both shot up.

dijit 4mo ago
Shame I have 2TiB of ECC DDR4 lying around :( Would be nice to be able to own property.
- varispeed 4mo ago
  People used to mock "you'll own nothing" as conspiracy theory.
  - stodor89 4mo ago
    Yoo, what about the "and be happy" part???
- Hamuko 4mo ago
  You can probably get a mansion in France for that.
- arjie 4mo ago
  Better to get rid of that stuff now unless it’s fast. You can get used 2666 DDR4 for about $200/64 GiB stick.
onli 4mo ago
Nice, I missed that. The 5700X3D has been the smarter pick back then, it fits to the current latent user hostility of AMD to focus on the more expensive processor.
- silon42 4mo ago
  They need to sell something. I bet sales of DDR5 related stuff are down.
- KeplerBoy 4mo ago
  That's literally the same chip. With pricing being whatever, who cares which one they revive.
  - onli 4mo ago
    It also was the same chip back then and the price difference significant. But maybe you are correct and with the current conditions it doesn't make a difference. I dont know.
qingcharles 4mo ago
Everyone re-releasing their old crap. Nvidia is remaking the 3060 too I believe because they can use cheaper older RAM on it.
- MegaDeKay 4mo ago
  I know what you're meaning but the 5800X3D is still a beast of a gaming CPU. It remains a great option for AM4 gaming.
  - qingcharles 4mo ago
    You're right. Even my 2080ti is really great for gaming, Photoshop etc, and that's roughly the same as the 3060. Even does pretty good on smaller LLMs.
- vablings 4mo ago
  It's not even "old crap" the PC consumer market has basically died in less than year due to your average person getting priced out, I cannot imagine how catastrophic of an impact this is going to have on younger folk and the barrier to entry to desktop computing
  - pezgrande 4mo ago
    A laptop with a 226v/256v cost around the same than the "cheap" Mac Neo and can play most games (old games native/new games with AI scaling)
    - qingcharles 4mo ago
      Agreed. I'm actually using nothing newer than 2018 and you get a ton of bang-for-your-buck with this old stuff still. I have a 2080ti and it plays a lot of fairly recent games pretty nicely.
- sidewndr46 4mo ago
  I'm just waiting for Zhaoxin to break into the international market with something
jmyeet 4mo ago
So I have some DDR4 RAM that I should probably just sell because I've looked multiple times at building an AM4 PC and it's just not worth it. These parts originate from a PC where the temps were high and I wanted to redo the thermal grease and ended up breaking the motherboard and unfortunately I bent the pins in the CPU too (5800XT). Bending the pins was dumb. Anyway, I just can't find a reason to build an AM4 PC even though the RAM is "free". It's just not worth it. If you need 64GB+ of RAM and the DDR4 vs DDR5 difference isn't significant to you then maybe it's worth it. Otherwise, you can still buy a 32GB DDR5 PC for similar prices to last year sometimes. It's not worth buying any AM4 CPU then the 7500X3D/7600X3D/7800X3D are so much better for the same price. The 5800X3D re-release is kinda funny. AMD claims they had to do significant re-engineering but it is my understanding they stopped selling it in the US but were still selling it overseas. So did production really stop? Anyway, the price seems to be $349. If so, that's completely not worth it. It's the same price as the 7800X#D, which is significantly better. As an example, here's a 7800X3D + motherboard + 32GB DDR5 bundle you can buy today for $629 if you happen to live near a Micro Center [1]. No AM4 option is going to compete with that, particularly not with a $349 CPU. [1]: https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007391/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-gigabyte-x870-gaming-wifi6-am5,-corsair-vengeance-rgb-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007391/amd-ryzen-7-7800...

dijit 4mo ago

Shame I have 2TiB of ECC DDR4 lying around :( Would be nice to be able to own property.

varispeed 4mo ago
People used to mock "you'll own nothing" as conspiracy theory.
- stodor89 4mo ago
  Yoo, what about the "and be happy" part???
Hamuko 4mo ago
You can probably get a mansion in France for that.
arjie 4mo ago
Better to get rid of that stuff now unless it’s fast. You can get used 2666 DDR4 for about $200/64 GiB stick.

onli 4mo ago

Nice, I missed that. The 5700X3D has been the smarter pick back then, it fits to the current latent user hostility of AMD to focus on the more expensive processor.

silon42 4mo ago
They need to sell something. I bet sales of DDR5 related stuff are down.
KeplerBoy 4mo ago
That's literally the same chip. With pricing being whatever, who cares which one they revive.
- onli 4mo ago
  It also was the same chip back then and the price difference significant. But maybe you are correct and with the current conditions it doesn't make a difference. I dont know.

qingcharles 4mo ago

Everyone re-releasing their old crap. Nvidia is remaking the 3060 too I believe because they can use cheaper older RAM on it.

MegaDeKay 4mo ago
I know what you're meaning but the 5800X3D is still a beast of a gaming CPU. It remains a great option for AM4 gaming.
- qingcharles 4mo ago
  You're right. Even my 2080ti is really great for gaming, Photoshop etc, and that's roughly the same as the 3060. Even does pretty good on smaller LLMs.
vablings 4mo ago
It's not even "old crap" the PC consumer market has basically died in less than year due to your average person getting priced out, I cannot imagine how catastrophic of an impact this is going to have on younger folk and the barrier to entry to desktop computing
- pezgrande 4mo ago
  A laptop with a 226v/256v cost around the same than the "cheap" Mac Neo and can play most games (old games native/new games with AI scaling)
  - qingcharles 4mo ago
    Agreed. I'm actually using nothing newer than 2018 and you get a ton of bang-for-your-buck with this old stuff still. I have a 2080ti and it plays a lot of fairly recent games pretty nicely.
sidewndr46 4mo ago
I'm just waiting for Zhaoxin to break into the international market with something

jmyeet 4mo ago

So I have some DDR4 RAM that I should probably just sell because I've looked multiple times at building an AM4 PC and it's just not worth it. These parts originate from a PC where the temps were high and I wanted to redo the thermal grease and ended up breaking the motherboard and unfortunately I bent the pins in the CPU too (5800XT). Bending the pins was dumb. Anyway, I just can't find a reason to build an AM4 PC even though the RAM is "free". It's just not worth it. If you need 64GB+ of RAM and the DDR4 vs DDR5 difference isn't significant to you then maybe it's worth it. Otherwise, you can still buy a 32GB DDR5 PC for similar prices to last year sometimes. It's not worth buying any AM4 CPU then the 7500X3D/7600X3D/7800X3D are so much better for the same price. The 5800X3D re-release is kinda funny. AMD claims they had to do significant re-engineering but it is my understanding they stopped selling it in the US but were still selling it overseas. So did production really stop? Anyway, the price seems to be $349. If so, that's completely not worth it. It's the same price as the 7800X#D, which is significantly better. As an example, here's a 7800X3D + motherboard + 32GB DDR5 bundle you can buy today for $629 if you happen to live near a Micro Center [1]. No AM4 option is going to compete with that, particularly not with a $349 CPU. [1]: https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007391/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-gigabyte-x870-gaming-wifi6-am5,-corsair-vengeance-rgb-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007391/amd-ryzen-7-7800...