> First, crime has come down by huge amounts in NYC. As many other commenters have mentioned, the decrease in crime is not related to the removal of civil libe

> First, crime has come down by huge amounts in NYC. As many other commenters have mentioned, the decrease in crime is not related to the removal of civil liberties. The crime decreases occurred prior to the implementation of many of these policies. > Second, I question whether most of the police actions are giving up essential liberties. I can see how some might think so, but I can see how many would not. They are infringing on constitutional rights. I don't see how those rights could be seen as anything but essential.