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Mythos gives BIG Tesla FSD energy, I’m over it

by testfrequency 4mo ago

atleastoptimal 4mo ago
What does that even mean?
- conradludgate 4mo ago
  Continously saying "FSD will be ready next year" for the last N years
  - atleastoptimal 4mo ago
    Mythos was announced a few month ago and has been actually demoed in many companies who have all reported its abilities, supporting the claims made by Anthropic. How is this in any way similar to the FSD situation?
- UltraSane 4mo ago
  All hype no substance.
  - atleastoptimal 4mo ago
    Mythos was announced a few month ago and has been actually demoed in many companies who have all reported its abilities, supporting the claims made by Anthropic. How is this in any way similar to the FSD situation?
    - testfrequency 4mo ago
      Tesla does* the same thing with “influencers”, close enough perhaps? Everyone either doesn’t have access, or always has the “bad version” and the “trust me it’s 10x better” version is always Coming Soon™
      - atleastoptimal 4mo ago
        You're conflating the protracted promises for full-self-driving with the current rollout of autonomous driving features in Teslas, a feature people are using today. I've driving with multiple people who use their Tesla self-driving and report its quality/accuracy, this isn't some overpromised future feature. And I mean, it's not like Anthropic is a zero-product company that is only offering gated access to their only product, Opus 4.7/4.8 are very good and are driving billions in revenue. Anyone can use it and see how good it is, and it is clear that it is a very good model at many things. It is no huge leap to imagine that a model that is 10x bigger is also better at many of the tasks that Opus is good at. They are gating the release because of cybersecurity/misuse concerns, which makes sense because 1. Existing models are already being used to find exploits and hack into systems 2. We don't know the effects of releasing a tool which can autonomously exploit systems, especially in a world driven by a "security through obscurity" philosophy. It makes sense to give a heads-up to patch up software that affects billions of users before releasing it. Imagining that this delayed rollout is all a big marketing scheme, that they have gotten dozens of multi-national companies to play along, and that Anthropic is somehow now just patently being dishonest about something while they have every incentive to not be dishonest (especially when they are neck and neck with OpenAI and their relative success depends on verified claims about model abilities), is pure conspiratorial thinking and driving more by a motivated cynicism about AI companies rather than a reasoned examination of the claims being made.

Mythos gives BIG Tesla FSD energy, I’m over it

atleastoptimal 4mo ago

What does that even mean?

conradludgate 4mo ago
Continously saying "FSD will be ready next year" for the last N years
- atleastoptimal 4mo ago
  Mythos was announced a few month ago and has been actually demoed in many companies who have all reported its abilities, supporting the claims made by Anthropic. How is this in any way similar to the FSD situation?
UltraSane 4mo ago
All hype no substance.
- atleastoptimal 4mo ago
  Mythos was announced a few month ago and has been actually demoed in many companies who have all reported its abilities, supporting the claims made by Anthropic. How is this in any way similar to the FSD situation?
  - testfrequency 4mo ago
    Tesla does* the same thing with “influencers”, close enough perhaps? Everyone either doesn’t have access, or always has the “bad version” and the “trust me it’s 10x better” version is always Coming Soon™
    - atleastoptimal 4mo ago
      You're conflating the protracted promises for full-self-driving with the current rollout of autonomous driving features in Teslas, a feature people are using today. I've driving with multiple people who use their Tesla self-driving and report its quality/accuracy, this isn't some overpromised future feature. And I mean, it's not like Anthropic is a zero-product company that is only offering gated access to their only product, Opus 4.7/4.8 are very good and are driving billions in revenue. Anyone can use it and see how good it is, and it is clear that it is a very good model at many things. It is no huge leap to imagine that a model that is 10x bigger is also better at many of the tasks that Opus is good at. They are gating the release because of cybersecurity/misuse concerns, which makes sense because 1. Existing models are already being used to find exploits and hack into systems 2. We don't know the effects of releasing a tool which can autonomously exploit systems, especially in a world driven by a "security through obscurity" philosophy. It makes sense to give a heads-up to patch up software that affects billions of users before releasing it. Imagining that this delayed rollout is all a big marketing scheme, that they have gotten dozens of multi-national companies to play along, and that Anthropic is somehow now just patently being dishonest about something while they have every incentive to not be dishonest (especially when they are neck and neck with OpenAI and their relative success depends on verified claims about model abilities), is pure conspiratorial thinking and driving more by a motivated cynicism about AI companies rather than a reasoned examination of the claims being made.