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Not to troll but what is a "forced immigrant"?

zirkonit 4mo ago
Based on the name, he's either Ukrainian running away from the war, or Russian, running away from being complicit in the war. Shitty situation to be in either way.
noitpmeder 4mo ago
Refugee? Asylum seeker? Move to support family? Could be many things forcing relocation.
- CodeCompost 4mo ago
  Ok yeah. Hope OP gets a job soon.
lmz 4mo ago
Refugee? Draft dodger?
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crumpled 4mo ago
You had to leave and you can't go back.
- GJim 4mo ago
  That's a forced emigrant.
  - darkwater 4mo ago
    Emigrant on one side, immigrant on the other. Unless you live in a boat in international waters, I guess...
    - maratc 4mo ago
      But you're only "forced" to emigrate, not to immigrate. Nicolas Maduro can be described as "forced immigrant".
keybored 4mo ago
Didn’t emigrate from a middle class European tech job to an upper-middle class American tech job.
gosub100 4mo ago
Lebanese who got their apartment blown up
IliaLitviak 4mo ago
A more than valid question! It's the only way I could figure out how to economically convey "I am a Russian who decided to leave Russia to not be complicit and because my history of protests and support for opposition makes it scary to stay, while I completely understand the level of privilege I'm enjoying and can't call myself a refugee even remotely". Even though I always wanted to live abroad, I didn't decide when and how exactly I would emigrate, hence "forced".
- timeisapear 4mo ago
  You sound like a candidate for asylum? Despite the administration policy, asylum law is still on the books. Might be good to get an application in and cross your fingers for a subsequently more friendly admin.
  - JsonDemWitOster 4mo ago
    Based on Ilia's post on the "Who's wants to be hired?" thread, he's currently based in Portugal.
    - IliaLitviak 4mo ago
      I am, yes. As I said, I am aware of my privilege and even though I might technically theoretically be a valid asylum case It would feel like abusing a system designed to help people in actual dire need. So even though I am more than willing to relocate, I would definitely NOT do that through the asylum process.
      - JsonDemWitOster 4mo ago
        Ilia, first of all, from what you've written today, you come across to me like a decent principled person and that's rare nowadays. I admire that. That said, if I may offer you my $0.02: systems exist for us to fallback on. You might know yourself and your situation best but sometimes the best way to not drown is to take a lifeline even if you know how to swim. I completely understand not wanting to take-up the space of someone in greater need but let the bureaucrats make that call. I'm not very smooth with words but what I'm saying is, I encourage you to apply for social support systems nonetheless. That's not just specifically the asylum process but I'm sure there are other programs in the EU (for instance) where you might qualify. It wouldn't hurt your situation, let the bureaucrats make the call, I don't think anyone will take it against you. Best of luck.

Based on the name, he's either Ukrainian running away from the war, or Russian, running away from being complicit in the war. Shitty situation to be in either way.

noitpmeder 4mo ago

Refugee? Asylum seeker? Move to support family? Could be many things forcing relocation.

CodeCompost 4mo ago
Ok yeah. Hope OP gets a job soon.

lmz 4mo ago

Refugee? Draft dodger?

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crumpled 4mo ago

You had to leave and you can't go back.

GJim 4mo ago
That's a forced emigrant.
- darkwater 4mo ago
  Emigrant on one side, immigrant on the other. Unless you live in a boat in international waters, I guess...
  - maratc 4mo ago
    But you're only "forced" to emigrate, not to immigrate. Nicolas Maduro can be described as "forced immigrant".

keybored 4mo ago

Didn’t emigrate from a middle class European tech job to an upper-middle class American tech job.

gosub100 4mo ago

Lebanese who got their apartment blown up

IliaLitviak 4mo ago

A more than valid question! It's the only way I could figure out how to economically convey "I am a Russian who decided to leave Russia to not be complicit and because my history of protests and support for opposition makes it scary to stay, while I completely understand the level of privilege I'm enjoying and can't call myself a refugee even remotely". Even though I always wanted to live abroad, I didn't decide when and how exactly I would emigrate, hence "forced".

timeisapear 4mo ago
You sound like a candidate for asylum? Despite the administration policy, asylum law is still on the books. Might be good to get an application in and cross your fingers for a subsequently more friendly admin.
- JsonDemWitOster 4mo ago
  Based on Ilia's post on the "Who's wants to be hired?" thread, he's currently based in Portugal.
  - IliaLitviak 4mo ago
    I am, yes. As I said, I am aware of my privilege and even though I might technically theoretically be a valid asylum case It would feel like abusing a system designed to help people in actual dire need. So even though I am more than willing to relocate, I would definitely NOT do that through the asylum process.
    - JsonDemWitOster 4mo ago
      Ilia, first of all, from what you've written today, you come across to me like a decent principled person and that's rare nowadays. I admire that. That said, if I may offer you my $0.02: systems exist for us to fallback on. You might know yourself and your situation best but sometimes the best way to not drown is to take a lifeline even if you know how to swim. I completely understand not wanting to take-up the space of someone in greater need but let the bureaucrats make that call. I'm not very smooth with words but what I'm saying is, I encourage you to apply for social support systems nonetheless. That's not just specifically the asylum process but I'm sure there are other programs in the EU (for instance) where you might qualify. It wouldn't hurt your situation, let the bureaucrats make the call, I don't think anyone will take it against you. Best of luck.