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Yes, with 128GB RAM, I guess one could even ignore that it is soldered (and hence "unrepairable"), but if it can't run Linux or *BSD it is a definite no go. We

Yes, with 128GB RAM, I guess one could even ignore that it is soldered (and hence "unrepairable"), but if it can't run Linux or *BSD it is a definite no go. We definitely don't need two closed hardware platform duopoly (Apple and Microsoft), as together they will dominate and kill the "open" platforms. But I am pessimistic here as everything seems headed towards that eventuality. We should never have accepted smartphones as closed platforms.

fsflover 4mo ago
> We should never have accepted smartphones as closed platforms. I didn't. Sent from my Librem 5.
rbanffy 4mo ago
> But I am pessimistic here as everything seems headed towards that eventuality. Lots of companies buy average Dell and Lenovo laptops because they are repairable in-house.
- thisislife2 4mo ago
  That's good to know - but many of their models also have soldered RAM, which is disappointing.
  - rbanffy 4mo ago
    Some of the chips they use are designed for soldered chips. I’m not sure whether that’s because of signal degradation over longer PCB traces and sockets.
jraph 4mo ago
> Yes, with 128GB RAM, I guess one could even ignore that it is soldered Unless that RAM fails in some way or another, then you have to replace the whole motherboard because of this.
- strobe 4mo ago
  in case of macbooks even if something like usb port controller failed is most likely leads to board replacement as well so is high change that even if RAM is fine it could be useless because some $2 component failure
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  - hoistbypetard 4mo ago
    macbooks have modular ports. https://www.ifixit.com/News/116152/macbook-neo-is-the-most-repairable-macbook-in-14-years#:~:text=Modular%20Ports%20and,logic%20board%20work. https://www.ifixit.com/News/116152/macbook-neo-is-the-most-r...
    - nicoburns 4mo ago
      The MacBook Neo has modular ports. The rest of them don't. They may introduce them more widely in the next redesign but that remains to be seen.
      - hoistbypetard 4mo ago
        The piece I linked, along with the parts for sale in the iFixIt shop seem to contradict your assertion. The piece says: "The Neo has the same modular bits and bobs we’ve applauded in recent MacBook designs. The USB-C ports are modular, so a damaged charge port doesn’t turn into logic board work."
        strobe 4mo ago
        good that they improving but I have one 2019 macbook died because of that issue, probably my M1 also could die because of that.
        hoistbypetard 4mo ago

fsflover 4mo ago

> We should never have accepted smartphones as closed platforms. I didn't. Sent from my Librem 5.

rbanffy 4mo ago

> But I am pessimistic here as everything seems headed towards that eventuality. Lots of companies buy average Dell and Lenovo laptops because they are repairable in-house.

thisislife2 4mo ago
That's good to know - but many of their models also have soldered RAM, which is disappointing.
- rbanffy 4mo ago
  Some of the chips they use are designed for soldered chips. I’m not sure whether that’s because of signal degradation over longer PCB traces and sockets.

jraph 4mo ago

> Yes, with 128GB RAM, I guess one could even ignore that it is soldered Unless that RAM fails in some way or another, then you have to replace the whole motherboard because of this.

strobe 4mo ago
in case of macbooks even if something like usb port controller failed is most likely leads to board replacement as well so is high change that even if RAM is fine it could be useless because some $2 component failure
- deleted 4mo ago
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- hoistbypetard 4mo ago
  macbooks have modular ports. https://www.ifixit.com/News/116152/macbook-neo-is-the-most-repairable-macbook-in-14-years#:~:text=Modular%20Ports%20and,logic%20board%20work. https://www.ifixit.com/News/116152/macbook-neo-is-the-most-r...
  - nicoburns 4mo ago
    The MacBook Neo has modular ports. The rest of them don't. They may introduce them more widely in the next redesign but that remains to be seen.
    - hoistbypetard 4mo ago
      The piece I linked, along with the parts for sale in the iFixIt shop seem to contradict your assertion. The piece says: "The Neo has the same modular bits and bobs we’ve applauded in recent MacBook designs. The USB-C ports are modular, so a damaged charge port doesn’t turn into logic board work."
      - strobe 4mo ago
        good that they improving but I have one 2019 macbook died because of that issue, probably my M1 also could die because of that.
        hoistbypetard 4mo ago