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Once again American capitalism ruins everything for everyone.
by thefz 4mo ago
Once again American capitalism ruins everything for everyone.
- HerbManic 4mo agoYeah but $1.50 Costco hot dogs! I got nothing more on that.
- drnick1 4mo agoWithout American capitalism you wouldn't have computers, the Internet, smartphones, AI, electric cars and countless other things. That, and the Costco hot dogs mentioned in another reply.
- loopback_device 4mo agoExcept that the www came out of Switzerland, the first electric vehicles out of Scotland and Germany, the earliest descriptions of neural networks - also Scotland, and countless other things, like Rockets and whatnot, also out of Europe. But, sure, congrats on that ARPANet thing.
- bluebarbet 4mo agoFinal sentence was unnecessary.
- matchbok3 4mo agoCan you point to the stock markets and silicon valley, and tech leaders and military of those countries? Oh, wait...
- pocksuppet 4mo agoThose are bad things to have.
- drnick1 4mo agoIt is American ingenuity that turned academic curiosities like neural nets into usable products. The missing ingredient in places like Europe or Asia is not intelligence, it is a business friendly environment and the right incentives for entrepreneurs. This is why countries like China can copy existing stuff and make derivative improvements, but don't meaningfully innovate.
- tardedmeme 4mo agoThank god we have "American ingenuity" to enshittify new inventions. Where would we be without that?
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 4mo ago"Without American capitalism you wouldn't have computers, the internet, ..." In fact, the internet was born out of the American military, i.e., government, and American universities, not "American capitalism" The first time I used this internet, there were rules against using it for commerce
- matchbok3 4mo agoThe American military would not exist without the economic freedoms we have.
- acdha 4mo agoDude, we get it, you’re a super fan but these are some intellectually lazy comments. Our military is powerful, yes, but if you want to make some exceptional claims you need to show your homework demonstrating that kind of claimed huge leap over other economies (China, Russia, Germany, etc.). Be sure to explain how Iran is doing so well for so much less.
- matchbok3 4mo agoUm, where did I mention China or Russia? Intellectually lazy? What are you even talking about? Stay on topic, you are embarrassing yourself.
- dosisking 4mo agoWe don't have any of these so-called 'econonic freedoms'. Anybody can be de-banked at any time.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 4mo agoThese "economic freedoms", specifically the actions of so-called "tech" companies with respect to the internet, are the cause of "age verfification" legislation The original internet had rules against using it for commercial activity It lacked "economic freedoms" FWIW I still found it worth using at the time, despite no so-called "tech" companies It also lacked websites of unmanageable size with hundreds of millions of pages of user-generated content used as bait to lure in ad targets for data collection and surveillance, so-called "platforms" or "social media" It lacked "age verification" to access those websites because those websites did not exist There will be at least one HN reply arguing that the original internet sucked, or some other brainless dismissal As if the internet we have now does not suck. Clearly, it does suck for some people It is not a lack of "economic freedoms" on the internet that has led to "age verification". It's quite the opposite
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 4mo ago"The global Internets progenitor was the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) financed and encouraged by the U.S. Department of Defense. In order to understand the wonder that the Internet and various other components of the Net represent, we need to understand why the ARPANET Completion Report ends with the suggestion that the ARPANET is fundamentally connected to and born of computer science rather than of the military. The Completion Report goes on to differentiate the research ARPA supported from the research done by the computer industry: The computer industry, in the main, still thinks of the computer as an arithmetic engine. Their heritage is reflected even in current designs of their communication systems. They have an economic and psychological commitment to the arithmetic engine model, and it can die only slowly.12 The Completion Report further analyzes this problem by tracing it back to the nations universities: furthermore, it is a view that is still reinforced by most of the nations computer science programs. Even universities, or at least parts of them, are held in the grasp of the arithmetic engine concept.13 Computer networking was developed and spread widely in an environment outside of commercial and profit considerations, an environment that supported such research." Michael Hauben Netizens: On the History and Impact of Usenet and the Internet (1997) IEEE Computer Society Press ISBN 0-8186-7706-6 https://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/book-pdf/CHAPTER https://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/book-pdf/CHAPTER 7.pdf HN commenters/voters may reject the use of the term "military" in the origin story of the internet That's fine However it was American taxpayers, through the _Department of Defense_, that financed the creation of the internet That's government spending, not "American capitalism" The original internet was non-commercial and was not the result of "American capitalism" As above, the American computer industry (capitalism) at the time was not focused on computer networking and using computers for communication, it was focused on computers as "arithmetic engines"
- thefz 4mo agoSmartphones and AI are tady's cancer, so good job America! Polluting the earth and its inhabitants once more. For electric cars, I have my doubts that without China we will have them, but I'll leave you simmer in your exceptionalism.
- timbit42 4mo agoThe world would still have them but perhaps not as quickly is the only difference.
- altmanaltman 4mo agoThe irony of writing this on this particular board, out of all places.
- zrn900 4mo agoNot only that. The Eu is also implementing 'age verification', at the same time with - surprise - digital id. It's just an attempt to reverse the free internet and implement total surveillance.
- NewsaHackO 4mo agoYeah, I feel as though people have seen the error of creating a free internet and are trying as much as possible to reverse it. It's kind of like how Photoshop (and most software companies honestly) have seen how selling a license in perpetuity does not work and opt for the rent-seeking monthly subscription route.
- jijijijij 4mo agoThe age verification with the EU ID card can be implemented without leaking any identifying information. If it's gonna be like that is questionable, but it's technically possible.
- tardedmeme 4mo agoFor $5 I'll give you an age token from my card.
- zrn900 4mo ago> without leaking any identifying information Do you really believe that the governments and the Eu machinery won't use that information for other purposes... https://bianet.org/haber/eu-strips-journalist-huseyin-dogru-of-livelihood-over-pro-palestine-reporting-318266 https://bianet.org/haber/eu-strips-journalist-huseyin-dogru-...
- matchbok3 4mo ago[flagged]