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You mean they implemented laws under the guise of "money laundering". They just want to track what you spend your money on, that's step one. Step two is to re

by HDBaseT 4mo ago

You mean they implemented laws under the guise of "money laundering". They just want to track what you spend your money on, that's step one. Step two is to restrict what you can spend your money on, although this is a partial side effect of part 1.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 4mo ago
Actually the privacy legislation in Italy is pretty strong. With the gdpr, banks have more challenges to do what they do with data in the US. Government might be tracking everybody, the goal of the law for sure is that. It's hard to say what happens with all of that.
margalabargala 4mo ago
> Step two is to restrict what you can spend your money on Where do people get these ideas? How do they sincerely hold them? No non-religious government wants to restrict what you can spend your money on. They want to get a cut of your money, but otherwise it's strictly better for them if you spend as much of it as possible. If they don't want you to have things, they just attack those things directly, like hard drugs or weapons. No need to restrict your ability to purchase.
- Cider9986 4mo ago
  >In July 2025, Visa and Mastercard pressured major digital storefronts Steam and Itch.io to delist thousands of adult and NSFW games.
  - margalabargala 4mo ago
    Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Let's ignore the fact that that was done by private companies and not directly by a government. The mechanism is to make it so undesirable objects are not available for sale. The above comment is implying these things would remain legitimately for sale as normal, but you would be unable to spend money on them.
- mike_hearn 4mo ago
  People get these ideas from the numerous examples of cases where it happens. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48338657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48338657
gobdovan 4mo ago
You're onto something, but from some Romanian local investigations and public statements into similar cluster of laws [0], it's just something banks lobby for, so they can have more control and consolidate their place in any transaction chain. Maybe govt benefits a little, but when you see limited cash withdraws or commercial transactions requiring a bank system, it's usually private gains at play. [0] (Romanian article) https://economedia.ro/parlamentarii-usr-au-depus-un-proiect-care-elimina-toate-plafoanele-la-plata-in-numerar.html https://economedia.ro/parlamentarii-usr-au-depus-un-proiect-...

by HDBaseT 4mo ago

Fire-Dragon-DoL 4mo ago

Actually the privacy legislation in Italy is pretty strong. With the gdpr, banks have more challenges to do what they do with data in the US. Government might be tracking everybody, the goal of the law for sure is that. It's hard to say what happens with all of that.

margalabargala 4mo ago

> Step two is to restrict what you can spend your money on Where do people get these ideas? How do they sincerely hold them? No non-religious government wants to restrict what you can spend your money on. They want to get a cut of your money, but otherwise it's strictly better for them if you spend as much of it as possible. If they don't want you to have things, they just attack those things directly, like hard drugs or weapons. No need to restrict your ability to purchase.

Cider9986 4mo ago
>In July 2025, Visa and Mastercard pressured major digital storefronts Steam and Itch.io to delist thousands of adult and NSFW games.
- margalabargala 4mo ago
  Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Let's ignore the fact that that was done by private companies and not directly by a government. The mechanism is to make it so undesirable objects are not available for sale. The above comment is implying these things would remain legitimately for sale as normal, but you would be unable to spend money on them.
mike_hearn 4mo ago
People get these ideas from the numerous examples of cases where it happens. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48338657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48338657

gobdovan 4mo ago

You're onto something, but from some Romanian local investigations and public statements into similar cluster of laws [0], it's just something banks lobby for, so they can have more control and consolidate their place in any transaction chain. Maybe govt benefits a little, but when you see limited cash withdraws or commercial transactions requiring a bank system, it's usually private gains at play. [0] (Romanian article) https://economedia.ro/parlamentarii-usr-au-depus-un-proiect-care-elimina-toate-plafoanele-la-plata-in-numerar.html https://economedia.ro/parlamentarii-usr-au-depus-un-proiect-...