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> Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. "Freedom from consequences" is fundamentally what freedom is. Such a stupid slogan.

• _carbyau_ 4mo ago
  I honestly wish you perfect freedom to do whatever, whenever, wherever along with perfect lack of consequences of your actions for the rest of the universe....
  • f33d5173 4mo ago
    Usually in a first amendment sense legal consequences specifically. More generally we would probably require freedom from physical harm by non state actors, freedom from employment consequences, etc. All of these are consequences which freedom entails freedom from. That's what any freedom means.
    • _carbyau_ 4mo ago
      > More generally we would probably require freedom from physical harm by non state actors In theory that is covered already by laws against physical violence in whatever form they take. > freedom from employment consequences This crosses the line into private actions and property. Unless you mean government employees maybe? I don't think you will find many private employers who'd support the idea they'd have to keep employees no matter what they say, privately or publicly as that could lead to significant harm of the business reputation. You've already got libel, perjury, obscenity, harassment limitations on "free speech". Just accept that it is not perfectly free and the reasons why are generally(feel free to pounce on the exceptions) for societal cohesion.