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NAL but I'd be worried about treading into CFAA territory with things like this. In the US, the law allows draconian penalties if you find yourself on the wrong
by avaer 5mo ago
NAL but I'd be worried about treading into CFAA territory with things like this. In the US, the law allows draconian penalties if you find yourself on the wrong side.
Something like yt-dlp is just downloading public data, which I can see being defensible as automating the use of a service.
But this commandeers remote machine resources to do your compute in ways clearly not intended by the provider. I don't know how ethical it is, but I definitely wouldn't want to argue this isn't "hacking" (the bad kind) in criminal court.
- jawns 5mo agoYeah, this is not slap on the wrist stuff. I think the creator expects nothing more than a C&D letter, but they could face prison time if a zealous federal prosecutor wants to make an example of them.
- hn_throwaway_99 5mo agoNot to mention, did this "hack" ever really work? When the original post went viral showing the Chipotle chatbot reversing a linked list, I (among others who posted their results online) immediately tried it and didn't get the same results, so I always assumed it was just a faked screenshot.
- avaer 5mo agoWhether something ever worked is not correlated with traction in a world where verification is measured by likes.
- arthurcolle 5mo agoYou really think someone would do that? Lie on the internet?
- Shadowmist 5mo agoTheir chat bot is pretty bad so who knows.
- qurren 5mo agoThey probably added something to the prompt after that viralness and then it was a cat and mouse game to jailbreak it
- Atotalnoob 5mo agoChipotle uses IPSoft Amelia. Amelia is quite horrible software, a place I worked did a bake off about 10 years ago and Amelia failed so miserably it was actually funny. There were so many security vulnerabilities.
- qingcharles 5mo agoAnd if you think CFAA is bad, then the states have even harsher versions too. Illinois' version specifically criminalizes any violation of a ToS.
- oneneptune 5mo agoI once saw the bad side of one of these draconian state laws many years ago. People rarely have the misfortune of hitting these laws in some flyover states... and I remember the local judge being really shocked by the mandated penalties for such a simple offense.
- notcfaa 5mo ago[dead]
- drob518 5mo agoYep, the key phrase is “misuse of computing resources,” if I remember correctly. IANAL, however. That said, kudos for creativity.
- OrangeMusic 5mo ago> In the US,
- boston_clone 5mo agoI’m not a lawyer, but Chipotle is a US company and this github repo belongs to a US citizen currently residing and employed in New York, so US law might apply here.