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With moves like this is it any wonder why Chrome basically hit the ground running with market share as soon as it hit a stable release? I got tired of the Mozil

With moves like this is it any wonder why Chrome basically hit the ground running with market share as soon as it hit a stable release? I got tired of the Mozilla bureaucracy a long time ago when they failed to acknowledge there were some serious memory leak issues with addons and the browser itself slowly consuming hundreds and eventually gigs of memory the longer it was left open, it wasn't until later builds (this year) they released a version that fixed this by sand-boxing the addons or something to that effect. I still remember the time Mozilla developers were fighting about removing front-facing version numbers from the browser, it's also at that point I realised there are some issues with the Firefox development team all while Chrome and even Opera gained more market share. Remember where your loyalties lay, Mozilla. I think they're starting to spread themselves too thin with wasted development of a Firefox OS and social integration. Halting 64 bit versions of Firefox for Windows for the time being might seem like a small, trivial thing, but it's not and I think it's a bad move.

masklinn 14y ago
> With moves like this [...] Chrome You mean the Chrome which can't even be arsed to provide 64b builds on platforms where it's easy (Linux) or trivial (OSX), let alone hard (Windows) ones?
- lvillani 14y ago
  > You mean the Chrome which can't even be arsed to provide 64b builds on platforms where it's easy (Linux) [...] $ file /opt/google/chrome/chrome{,-sandbox} [10:47:39] /opt/google/chrome/chrome: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, BuildID[sha1]=0x2df3f5f435cb5747ea72be922c428b9a0017cb50, stripped /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox: setuid ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, BuildID[sha1]=0xd02cf32515390b01af9aa5b1a53cd1dfb4fb7a35, stripped
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- barredo 14y ago
  I think Chrome has 64 bits version in Linux, but not in Win and OSX
kevingadd 14y ago
It's almost as if Mozilla has been an open source project forever, and people who are contributing to open source projects in their spare time for free don't just do whatever you tell them to do. Mysterious...
- ubercow13 14y ago
  Mozilla has many paid employees, though.
  - Tloewald 14y ago
    Paid, effectively, by Google.
    - blablabla123 14y ago
      (to show Google as preferred search engine :D)
    - recoiledsnake 14y ago
      And Google pays Mozilla for prime placement because Firefox has users(even Bing would). No users = no money. So, this is not your typical volunteer FOSS project when you're pulling in upwards of 100 million dollars a year and the standard rebuttal to people asking for bug fixes and features does not apply. Reminds me of the mouseover text bug that Randall Munroe was requesting to get fixed for Xkcd and was met with hostility. Did they expect him to fork Firefox to make his Firefox readers see the text? It took them 7 or 8 years to roll the fix into Firefox. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45375 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45375 (search for Randall).
    - Symmetry 14y ago
      And what's that supposed to mean? Are you suggesting that Google is using it's leverage over Mozilla to get them to not compete with Google's browser? That sounds sort of incredible to me, given that Chrome isn't a profit center for Google.
josteink 14y ago
Remember where your loyalties lay, Mozilla. I think they're starting to spread themselves too thin with wasted development of a Firefox OS and social integration. While you may have a point about spreading things too thin, I would hardly call Firefox OS wasted effort. Even as a die-hard Android-user I find it some of the most fascinating and promising development going on in the mobile-sector right now. If there is one platform I want to succeed, it's not Apple's or Google's. It's the web. Having you entire mobile experience powered by standardized HTML, JS and APIs would be wonderful. It would also make it dead easy to provide mobile "apps" for web-sites without the need to setup huge, dedicated app-development teams, one for each "supported" platform. I don't see Firefox OS as wasted effort. The rest of the bunch (Apple, Google, Microsoft) are just doing a mobile/touch-oriented rehash of the desktop-regime, with an added proprietary app-store. Firefox OS on the other hand, is not getting near the attention and recognition it deserves. It's the only revolutionary mobile-platform being developed right now. It's the only platform bringing forth some new ideas.

masklinn 14y ago

> With moves like this [...] Chrome You mean the Chrome which can't even be arsed to provide 64b builds on platforms where it's easy (Linux) or trivial (OSX), let alone hard (Windows) ones?

lvillani 14y ago
> You mean the Chrome which can't even be arsed to provide 64b builds on platforms where it's easy (Linux) [...] $ file /opt/google/chrome/chrome{,-sandbox} [10:47:39] /opt/google/chrome/chrome: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, BuildID[sha1]=0x2df3f5f435cb5747ea72be922c428b9a0017cb50, stripped /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox: setuid ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, BuildID[sha1]=0xd02cf32515390b01af9aa5b1a53cd1dfb4fb7a35, stripped
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barredo 14y ago
I think Chrome has 64 bits version in Linux, but not in Win and OSX

kevingadd 14y ago

It's almost as if Mozilla has been an open source project forever, and people who are contributing to open source projects in their spare time for free don't just do whatever you tell them to do. Mysterious...

ubercow13 14y ago
Mozilla has many paid employees, though.
- Tloewald 14y ago
  Paid, effectively, by Google.
  - blablabla123 14y ago
    (to show Google as preferred search engine :D)
  - recoiledsnake 14y ago
    And Google pays Mozilla for prime placement because Firefox has users(even Bing would). No users = no money. So, this is not your typical volunteer FOSS project when you're pulling in upwards of 100 million dollars a year and the standard rebuttal to people asking for bug fixes and features does not apply. Reminds me of the mouseover text bug that Randall Munroe was requesting to get fixed for Xkcd and was met with hostility. Did they expect him to fork Firefox to make his Firefox readers see the text? It took them 7 or 8 years to roll the fix into Firefox. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45375 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45375 (search for Randall).
  - Symmetry 14y ago
    And what's that supposed to mean? Are you suggesting that Google is using it's leverage over Mozilla to get them to not compete with Google's browser? That sounds sort of incredible to me, given that Chrome isn't a profit center for Google.

josteink 14y ago

Remember where your loyalties lay, Mozilla. I think they're starting to spread themselves too thin with wasted development of a Firefox OS and social integration. While you may have a point about spreading things too thin, I would hardly call Firefox OS wasted effort. Even as a die-hard Android-user I find it some of the most fascinating and promising development going on in the mobile-sector right now. If there is one platform I want to succeed, it's not Apple's or Google's. It's the web. Having you entire mobile experience powered by standardized HTML, JS and APIs would be wonderful. It would also make it dead easy to provide mobile "apps" for web-sites without the need to setup huge, dedicated app-development teams, one for each "supported" platform. I don't see Firefox OS as wasted effort. The rest of the bunch (Apple, Google, Microsoft) are just doing a mobile/touch-oriented rehash of the desktop-regime, with an added proprietary app-store. Firefox OS on the other hand, is not getting near the attention and recognition it deserves. It's the only revolutionary mobile-platform being developed right now. It's the only platform bringing forth some new ideas.