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It's better that kids be harmed than the government starts intervening with regulation. Either kids aren't actually being harmed, government regulation will ca

It's better that kids be harmed than the government starts intervening with regulation. Either kids aren't actually being harmed, government regulation will cause more harm, or parents should parent their kids. Either way, nothing about the solution should involve me.

lazyasciiart 5mo ago
If you will never interact with or rely on people who are currently children, then that's plausible. Unfortunately, it is not possible to live that way, so your suggestion is not really under consideration.
JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
> or parents should parent their kids Parents are voters. One of the way they parent is by being civically active in their kids’ interest.
- kelseyfrog 5mo ago
  Parents should: Throw away their TVs and minimize screen time at home[1]. Be responsible for the upbringing of their own children[2]. Learn how to be parents; the government shouldn't force companies to do parenting instead[3]. Not have had children in the first place[4]. Be the ones responsible for parenting their own children[5]. Actually parent their kids and not rely on the government to nanny them[6]. Get to decide what content their children, then like me, you would oppose any kind of legislation with this goal in mind[7]. I could go on. My point is that HN has a long tradition of distrusting regulation especially when it comes to parenting. I have no problem acting as a lightning rod for that arugment. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48182101 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48182101 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48074072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48074072 3. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48072708 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48072708 4. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48069884 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48069884 5. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47818303 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47818303 6. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47635531 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47635531 7. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47382754 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47382754
  - JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
    > HN has a long tradition of distrusting regulation especially when it comes to parenting Sure. HN is also filled with folks who don’t vote or believe in calling their electeds. Parenting has collective-responsibility elements. I’m not saying I support this instance of it. But in general, the argument that parenting has to be a solely individual responsibility while tech companies pillage our youth is a flawed pitch. (My personal view on this balance flipped with social media.)
    - kelseyfrog 5mo ago
      Oh for sure. In general, I file them in the PDA[1] bucket. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_demand_avoidance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_demand_avoidance
  - frozenseven 5mo ago
    Bonus: And we should recognize that kids have responsibilities too. If they do something bad, it's silly trying to throw the blame on whatever the current moral panic is. Video games, D&D, rock/rap music, AI (!), etc.
    - kelseyfrog 5mo ago
      I kinda feel like the people inciting moral panics should be held responsible for doing so. It's the social equivalent of dumping toxic chemicals.
Planktonne 5mo ago
> It's better that kids be harmed than the government starts intervening with regulation No it isn't. The idea that no amount of actual harm outweighs the possibility of any amount of potential economic harm is not a reasonable one.

lazyasciiart 5mo ago

If you will never interact with or rely on people who are currently children, then that's plausible. Unfortunately, it is not possible to live that way, so your suggestion is not really under consideration.

JumpCrisscross 5mo ago

> or parents should parent their kids Parents are voters. One of the way they parent is by being civically active in their kids’ interest.

kelseyfrog 5mo ago
Parents should: Throw away their TVs and minimize screen time at home[1]. Be responsible for the upbringing of their own children[2]. Learn how to be parents; the government shouldn't force companies to do parenting instead[3]. Not have had children in the first place[4]. Be the ones responsible for parenting their own children[5]. Actually parent their kids and not rely on the government to nanny them[6]. Get to decide what content their children, then like me, you would oppose any kind of legislation with this goal in mind[7]. I could go on. My point is that HN has a long tradition of distrusting regulation especially when it comes to parenting. I have no problem acting as a lightning rod for that arugment. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48182101 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48182101 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48074072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48074072 3. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48072708 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48072708 4. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48069884 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48069884 5. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47818303 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47818303 6. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47635531 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47635531 7. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47382754 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47382754
- JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
  > HN has a long tradition of distrusting regulation especially when it comes to parenting Sure. HN is also filled with folks who don’t vote or believe in calling their electeds. Parenting has collective-responsibility elements. I’m not saying I support this instance of it. But in general, the argument that parenting has to be a solely individual responsibility while tech companies pillage our youth is a flawed pitch. (My personal view on this balance flipped with social media.)
  - kelseyfrog 5mo ago
    Oh for sure. In general, I file them in the PDA[1] bucket. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_demand_avoidance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_demand_avoidance
- frozenseven 5mo ago
  Bonus: And we should recognize that kids have responsibilities too. If they do something bad, it's silly trying to throw the blame on whatever the current moral panic is. Video games, D&D, rock/rap music, AI (!), etc.
  - kelseyfrog 5mo ago
    I kinda feel like the people inciting moral panics should be held responsible for doing so. It's the social equivalent of dumping toxic chemicals.

Planktonne 5mo ago

> It's better that kids be harmed than the government starts intervening with regulation No it isn't. The idea that no amount of actual harm outweighs the possibility of any amount of potential economic harm is not a reasonable one.