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"He's out of line, but he's right": while Iran are an extremely bad actor, before Trump the situation was stable. And the start of conventional hostilities was
by pjc50 5mo ago
"He's out of line, but he's right": while Iran are an extremely bad actor, before Trump the situation was stable. And the start of conventional hostilities was clearly from the US+Israel side.
(open question as to how much the October 2023 attack is the fault of Iran, specifically?)
- Izkata 5mo agoThere were negotiations before it all started and people seem to have missed or forgotten the claim that Iran mentioned having material to create 11 nukes during this. When this first came out all the news reported there was no evidence Iran had that, but now their refined uranium isn't really in question. Also during this one of their missiles hit a target 4000 kilometers away, much further than they were claiming they had. That's far enough to hit Europe if it had gone in the other direction. To me it's looking like the stability was an illusion.
- analognoise 5mo agoIt was also reported that all US intelligence agencies denied that Iran was making a nuke. It was also reported that during negotiations before this war, Iran had offered 100% of all nuclear material to be surrendered to the USA, to prevent a war. Also, Marco Rubio said directly that Israel was going to strike anyway, and that we had to respond. He later “clarified” that it was. 100% Trumps call. So - if the stability was an illusion, it’s because Trump and Israel are unstable, right?
- mring33621 5mo agoI'm not sure 'Illusion' is the right word, and it should probably read "Trump and Israel and Iran" are unstable. But, yes