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The tools of oppression reading is backed directly by the books: "But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them" Is it also true that Fremen
by angelmanuel 4mo ago
The tools of oppression reading is backed directly by the books: "But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them"
Is it also true that Fremen are canonically descendants of Zensunni practitioners, which is a mix of Zen and Sunni Islam
Many other restrict machines, and the dogma is encoded on a religious text called the Orange Catholic Bible. And, this might be a big jump but, some of the specific anti-machine quotes are similar to Matthew 12:31-32 IMO
- Kiro 4mo agoNot a very deep justification. Probably the easiest thing to grasp for when thinking "how can I make this religious theme fit the narrative?".
- decimalenough 4mo agoIt seems exactly the opposite to me: Herbert didn't want robots etc in Dune, so he came up with a religious figleaf to justify this.
- TheOtherHobbes 4mo agoHerbert wrote other books about the dangers of god-like AI, so it wasn't just an "I don't want this." Dune is very much about systems of power and oppression, the obvious and less obvious forms they take, and the way they transcend and direct individuals. Even when the individuals are almost omnipotent - in theory. The whole point of Dune is that these systems are human, but have an independent life of their own. The narrative is about modes of human supremacy, and a jihad against AI isn't just some optional world building, it fits the narrative perfectly.
- Ekaros 4mo agoAlso reminds me of the shield technology and laser weapons. Making them go boom when put together is a way to get rid of them and ensure certain kind of setting. Even if the whole thing is just weird if think about physics.