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But as the GP comment asked: 1. In what way is it a risk to the plane? Or is the idea that we should not attempt to evaluate whether pilot's decisions are obje

But as the GP comment asked: 1. In what way is it a risk to the plane? Or is the idea that we should not attempt to evaluate whether pilot's decisions are objective and reasonable? Is there some objective rule being used? (Or if an objective rule can't be stated, is it more like the pilot's feelings or mood about the passenger(s) at any particular moment?) 2. But if someone believes it's reasonable for pilots to turn planes around based on whether someone is wearing a pro or anti Biden/Trump shirt, etc. wouldn't the better solution for airlines to just proactively ban clothing, stickers, etc. with countries' flags, candidate names, political slogans, etc. rather than having pilots turn around planes midflight based on a whim(?), costing hundreds of people large amounts of time and money?

steve1977 5mo ago
> wouldn't the better solution for airlines to just proactively ban clothing, stickers, etc. with countries' flags, candidate names, political slogans https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/contract-of-carriage.html https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/contract-of-carriage.html Rule 21 Refusal of Transport Part H: Safety – Whenever refusal or removal of a Passenger may be necessary for the safety of such Passenger or other Passengers or members of the crew including, but not limited to: 5. Passengers who are barefoot, not properly clothed, or whose clothing is lewd, obscene or offensive;
- no-name-here 5mo ago
  Is the point here that clothing containing a pro or anti Biden or Trump, or have a countries' flag, or be a US military uniform, should "pose a risk to his plane", and so airlines should be proactively banning such things from being allowed onboard? Or how does it answer the grandparent and great-grandparent's comments questions about why such thing should "pose a risk to his plane"?
- vkou 5mo ago
  So, on that spectrum, is the MAGA hat lewd, obscene, or offensive?

steve1977 5mo ago

> wouldn't the better solution for airlines to just proactively ban clothing, stickers, etc. with countries' flags, candidate names, political slogans https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/contract-of-carriage.html https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/contract-of-carriage.html Rule 21 Refusal of Transport Part H: Safety – Whenever refusal or removal of a Passenger may be necessary for the safety of such Passenger or other Passengers or members of the crew including, but not limited to: 5. Passengers who are barefoot, not properly clothed, or whose clothing is lewd, obscene or offensive;

no-name-here 5mo ago
Is the point here that clothing containing a pro or anti Biden or Trump, or have a countries' flag, or be a US military uniform, should "pose a risk to his plane", and so airlines should be proactively banning such things from being allowed onboard? Or how does it answer the grandparent and great-grandparent's comments questions about why such thing should "pose a risk to his plane"?
vkou 5mo ago
So, on that spectrum, is the MAGA hat lewd, obscene, or offensive?