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> There's no way to warn them, so all you can do is... watch …and then wake up from the nightmare wishing the stress from the job is lower. I can only laugh t
by skydhash 5mo ago
> There's no way to warn them, so all you can do is... watch
…and then wake up from the nightmare wishing the stress from the job is lower.
I can only laugh that some people truly believe that developers, one of the most ardent group at automating the tedious part of their job, would refuse to use an effective tool. You only need to look at the open source world to see people litterally scratching their own hitch everywhere.
- qsera 5mo ago>would refuse to use an effective tool. No one said I don't use LLMs. I use LLMs daily...for search. That is its best use. That is my own judgement.
- voidUpdate 5mo agoWhat if I don't want to automate away the part of my job that I actually like doing? What if, in my job as a programmer, I actually want to do programming?
- qsera 5mo agoPeople who demand programmers start using LLMs in their work don't understand that it is essentially like asking programmers to start doing accounting or HR. Something fundamentally different from what they love to do..
- voidUpdate 5mo agoTheyre asking programmers to become managers, asking another entity to do the work for them and check in every now and again to see how it's going
- qsera 5mo agoActually they are asking programmers to become managers in addition to programmers. Because when the LLMs stops working, they are expected to take over. So I think programmers who are asked to use LLMs should demand their job descriptions to be changed to that of managers, and should ever deny responsibility if the LLM stops to make progress. Thus let the organization be responsible to actually find a version of AI that works, just like how it was responsible to find competent programmers to work under the managers before.
- maybe_pablo 5mo agoThat’s fair. I do think, however, that the software industry may become a bit like the clothing industry: there will still be an artisanal market for people who want human-made software, but to be honest I wouldn’t expect it to remain the mainstream option.
- voidUpdate 5mo agoWell I can say for sure I'd rather wear long lasting, tested (second hand), human made clothing rather than Shein Slop
- maybe_pablo 5mo agoSure, and I don’t disagree, but goods and services still need to scale to billions of people. Most people aren’t going to start knitting their own clothes, or have the time to, just like most companies probably won’t rely on fully hand-written software if cheaper automated alternatives are good enough. What you want or enjoy is one thing; the reality of society is another.
- qsera 5mo ago>won’t rely on fully hand-written software if cheaper automated alternatives are good enough. By this logic, all non-outsourced development should be dead already.