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"It's free and always will be" - Facebook

by Animats 5mo ago

ravenstine 5mo ago
Whenever companies make statements like this and then people act surprised when they backtrack, I can't help but think of a bit of my favorite dialogue from Star Trek Enterprise. HARRIS: We had an arrangement! KRELL: You did what I wanted. I don't need you anymore. HARRIS: You agreed that both our governments would benefit if the two of us worked together. KRELL: And you believed me.
avaer 5mo ago
"They 'trust me'. Dumb fucks." - Mark Zuckerberg
- alex1138 5mo ago
  Followed by him overwriting people's email addresses and constantly fucking around with privacy settings Ohhhh but he was young! Be easy on him (/s)
  - shevy-java 5mo ago
    Not only that, but Spybook aka Facebook, also connected offline information, e. g. I think if I recall it was dental care or something like that. I don't remember the year (edit: a google search led me to this article from 2018, but I could swear this was several years before that - see https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43668607 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43668607), but it was scary that they go and sniff for ALL data they can find about people. This brings mega-corporation to a new level of Evil. And I haven't even gotten to talk about Google here, yet ...
dataflow 5mo ago
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/10/mark-zuckerberg-there-will-always-be-a-version-of-facebook-that-is-free.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/10/mark-zuckerberg-there-will-a...
x0x0 5mo ago
I'd bet good money this is mostly related to Europe's GDPR / DMA actions against Facebook. Ironically, I think Facebook would be in the clear to just charge everyone in Europe and dump ads altogether. :shrug:
- f33d5173 5mo ago
  I didn't see it mentioned that this hid ads. I would be surprised if it did, since facebook makes way more than $4/month off many of it's users, they would be leaving a ton of money on the table if they only charged that to remove ads.
  - embedding-shape 5mo ago
    Probably paying would toggle on/off personalization of the ads, but then also they'd charge extra for the ads they show to "paying high-quality users" or something, so they can double-dip both sides.
soupspaces 5mo ago
"don't be evil"?
1970-01-01 5mo ago
https://abcnews.com/blogs/technology/2011/09/facebook-will-always-be-free-company-says https://abcnews.com/blogs/technology/2011/09/facebook-will-a...

"It's free and always will be" - Facebook

by Animats 5mo ago

"It's free and always will be" - Facebook

Whenever companies make statements like this and then people act surprised when they backtrack, I can't help but think of a bit of my favorite dialogue from Star Trek Enterprise. HARRIS: We had an arrangement! KRELL: You did what I wanted. I don't need you anymore. HARRIS: You agreed that both our governments would benefit if the two of us worked together. KRELL: And you believed me.

avaer 5mo ago

"They 'trust me'. Dumb fucks." - Mark Zuckerberg

alex1138 5mo ago
Followed by him overwriting people's email addresses and constantly fucking around with privacy settings Ohhhh but he was young! Be easy on him (/s)
- shevy-java 5mo ago
  Not only that, but Spybook aka Facebook, also connected offline information, e. g. I think if I recall it was dental care or something like that. I don't remember the year (edit: a google search led me to this article from 2018, but I could swear this was several years before that - see https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43668607 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43668607), but it was scary that they go and sniff for ALL data they can find about people. This brings mega-corporation to a new level of Evil. And I haven't even gotten to talk about Google here, yet ...

dataflow 5mo ago

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/10/mark-zuckerberg-there-will-always-be-a-version-of-facebook-that-is-free.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/10/mark-zuckerberg-there-will-a...

x0x0 5mo ago

I'd bet good money this is mostly related to Europe's GDPR / DMA actions against Facebook. Ironically, I think Facebook would be in the clear to just charge everyone in Europe and dump ads altogether. :shrug:

f33d5173 5mo ago
I didn't see it mentioned that this hid ads. I would be surprised if it did, since facebook makes way more than $4/month off many of it's users, they would be leaving a ton of money on the table if they only charged that to remove ads.
- embedding-shape 5mo ago
  Probably paying would toggle on/off personalization of the ads, but then also they'd charge extra for the ads they show to "paying high-quality users" or something, so they can double-dip both sides.

soupspaces 5mo ago

"don't be evil"?

1970-01-01 5mo ago

https://abcnews.com/blogs/technology/2011/09/facebook-will-always-be-free-company-says https://abcnews.com/blogs/technology/2011/09/facebook-will-a...