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it's dangerous to refuse to understand whats happening broadly, and what's taking place in this thread, and to signal that it's ok to keep refusing to understan
by hashmap 4mo ago
it's dangerous to refuse to understand whats happening broadly, and what's taking place in this thread, and to signal that it's ok to keep refusing to understand it.
the anger that's showing up around ai isn't a matter of the masses being misinformed, or the messaging around it, it's a matter of physics. you have this one thing that is being used as an excuse to lay people off en masse, you have tech ceos near daily saying they're gonna come for everyone else's job too, and you have the hyperscalers taking up every bit of oxygen in the room. not even gaming has been safe.
taking the attitude that it's "just such a classic moral panic" is figuring out which way the ocean is receding and running headlong toward it.
- daishi55 4mo ago> the anger that's showing up around ai isn't a matter of the masses being misinformed Isn't it though? let me quote my other comments in this thread: > There is undoubtedly AI-written code in the Linux kernel now, but are they out there harassing those maintainers? No. rsync GitHub is easier to brigade. > They’re also all completely disingenuous (“I’ll have to stop using rsync now”) given that 99.99% of software now includes AI-written code This is why I call it a moral panic and hysteria. It's not reasoned, considered opposition to AI. The people on that github thread are totally disconnected from reality - it doesn't matter to them whether the accusations are true, it matters that the accusations have been made, and against an easy target that they don't expect fight-back from. If they really just had a considered moral opposition to AI-generated code, they would be out there harassing Linus Torvalds himself. Are they? No. Because it's just a moral panic.
- hashmap 4mo agowhether or to what degree people in general are misinformed is a red herring. the forces driving it from underneath are far larger and are moving in very, very obvious ways, and dismissing them as just a moral panic is a head-in-sand move.
- LtWorf 4mo ago> given that 99.99% of software now includes AI-written code source?
- daishi55 4mo ago[flagged]
- LtWorf 4mo agoSo you made it up?
- subjectsigma 4mo ago[flagged]
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- subjectsigma 4mo ago[dead]
- soerxpso 4mo agoIf you think you're owed a salary to do something that a simple machine can do, I have a field for you to plow by hand.
- galleywest200 4mo agoReplace the C-suite with the chatbots first.
- hashmap 4mo agowhether or not you think anyone is owed anything for anything is a completely different topic. i'm talking about what is happening right in front of you, and everywhere.
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- hnfong 4mo agoWhat do you mean? You pretty much described classic moral panic.
- hashmap 4mo agoa classic moral panic would be videogames causing violence. what is happening is the beginning of something more akin to the luddite movement, and there is a chasm between them, and this has the potential to become far more widespread, and far more violent. it's not about the tech, it's about the economics.
- senordevnyc 4mo agoThank you for aptly demonstrating the exact kind of hysteria and mob mentality they're describing.
- jason_oster 4mo ago> this one thing that is being used as an excuse to lay people off en masse, you have tech ceos near daily saying they're gonna come for everyone else's job too, and you have the hyperscalers taking up every bit of oxygen in the room. I hear these complaints multiple times per day. Not just "nearly daily". The backlash has long since drowned out the original source. The ad nauseam anguish has been steadily increasing for months. I almost prefer to listen to asshole CEOs at this point. At least they have more to say than just repeating these same points. Being dismissive of AI panic is healthy. What you're engaging in is not.
- hashmap 4mo agoMost Marie Antoinette comment I've seen in a while. Startling.
- jason_oster 4mo agoI'll take that as a threat of violence.