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I'm not sure what point you are replying to; my reading of GP's (somewhat incoherent) post is that Iran has more in common with Nazi Germany than it does with (

I'm not sure what point you are replying to; my reading of GP's (somewhat incoherent) post is that Iran has more in common with Nazi Germany than it does with (most) of western civilisation. If we're working on a scale of 1-10 for "how close is a ruling government to Nazi Germany", Iran is maybe a 7 or 8. The US, despite Trump's best efforts, is still only at a relatively benign 3 or 4.

watwut 5mo ago
> my reading of GP's (somewhat incoherent) post is that Iran has more in common with Nazi Germany than it does with (most) of western civilisation. I not sure what I am supposed to take away from this comparison. I never claimed Iran, UAE or Saudi are western civilizations. And conversely, Nazi Germany was a product of western civilization and still have active western fans. Notably, in the form of German AfD and guess who was giving them money and supporting them lately. And also notably in the form of Stephen Miller and sigh heiling American business leaders and politicians. > If we're working on a scale of 1-10 for "how close is a ruling government to Nazi Germany", Iran is maybe a 7 or 8. The relevant difference being that Nazi Germany started the war of conquest. In this case, USA started this war for no good reason and celebrates conquest. Nazi Germany committed genocide. Israel committed genocide and USA punished people from saying it out loud. Iran, UAE and Saudi all mistreat their minorities, Iran probably the most. And still, Iranian minorities specifically refused to join the war, because they knew they will be betrayed again if they do. Iran is oppressive dictatorship - but original war plan was to keep it as oppressive dictatorship and negotiate with new head for oil. Like what happened in Venezuela. Iran is what happens when Islam goes bad. And on top of it all, USA seems to despise other western democratic countries, is attacking them as much as it can and is trying to make them weaker. And supports those far right movements. > still only at a relatively benign 3 or 4 USA is better country then Iran internally. Absolutely. It is also massively more powerful and is causing more issues then Iran can cause. Greenland thing was not benign. Financial help to AFD is not benign. AFD are literally people who want nazi germany happen again. Support to Russia is not benign. Starting the war against Iran and causing worldwide economic issues worldwide is not benign. Murdering those boatsmen is not benign.

watwut 5mo ago

> my reading of GP's (somewhat incoherent) post is that Iran has more in common with Nazi Germany than it does with (most) of western civilisation. I not sure what I am supposed to take away from this comparison. I never claimed Iran, UAE or Saudi are western civilizations. And conversely, Nazi Germany was a product of western civilization and still have active western fans. Notably, in the form of German AfD and guess who was giving them money and supporting them lately. And also notably in the form of Stephen Miller and sigh heiling American business leaders and politicians. > If we're working on a scale of 1-10 for "how close is a ruling government to Nazi Germany", Iran is maybe a 7 or 8. The relevant difference being that Nazi Germany started the war of conquest. In this case, USA started this war for no good reason and celebrates conquest. Nazi Germany committed genocide. Israel committed genocide and USA punished people from saying it out loud. Iran, UAE and Saudi all mistreat their minorities, Iran probably the most. And still, Iranian minorities specifically refused to join the war, because they knew they will be betrayed again if they do. Iran is oppressive dictatorship - but original war plan was to keep it as oppressive dictatorship and negotiate with new head for oil. Like what happened in Venezuela. Iran is what happens when Islam goes bad. And on top of it all, USA seems to despise other western democratic countries, is attacking them as much as it can and is trying to make them weaker. And supports those far right movements. > still only at a relatively benign 3 or 4 USA is better country then Iran internally. Absolutely. It is also massively more powerful and is causing more issues then Iran can cause. Greenland thing was not benign. Financial help to AFD is not benign. AFD are literally people who want nazi germany happen again. Support to Russia is not benign. Starting the war against Iran and causing worldwide economic issues worldwide is not benign. Murdering those boatsmen is not benign.