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I’m offering a fully end to end encrypted open source version and hosted version of open router : https://trustedrouter.com/ https://trustedrouter.com/

• Squarex 5mo ago
  The link is not working.
• latchkey 5mo ago
  I'm reading the website and nothing about this addresses the compute running the models. If that's going to a third party (just like openrouter is), then there are no guarantees, other than words on paper.
  • ljlolel 5mo ago
    it's here: https://trustedrouter.com/providers https://trustedrouter.com/providers
    • latchkey 5mo ago
      Proving my point. Your prompt gets sent through TR, to another provider on the other end. There are zero guarantees beyond "trust me bro" that the inference provider isn't taking your prompts and selling them to promptbase or one of a dozen other similar services. Venice claims no logs, which may or may not be true, but what happens to your prompt after they proxy it to the service running the GPUs? From their website: "The GPUs that process your inference requests come from multiple decentralized providers, and while each specific provider can see the text of one specific conversation, it never sees your entire history, nor knows your identity." Which is an absurd claim if your prompt has your company name in it. It doesn't matter if it is encrypted in transport, once it hits the company running the GPUs, it is open season for them. Boggles my mind that people are ok with this.
      • ljlolel 5mo ago
        TR is end to end encrypted to the provider, and we offer providers like Tinfoil that are also end to end that we also attested using Secure Enclaves. OpenRouter doesn't provide that guarantee. This is entirely transparent. TR is also 100% open source. It'd be nice if you acknowledged the value of this.
        • latchkey 5mo ago
          The only solution to this problem is to run the compute yourself.
      • ljlolel 5mo ago
        You need to learn about Secure Enclaves
        • latchkey 5mo ago
          You need to learn to not make assumptions. I went to AMD's offices and learned about them from the greybeards that built it. If you think that's the end all solution, you're wrong. Tip of the iceberg... https://www.amd.com/en/resources/product-security/bulletin/amd-sb-3020.html https://www.amd.com/en/resources/product-security/bulletin/a...
          • ljlolel 5mo ago
            You stopped using any software that has had a security vulnerability?
            • latchkey 5mo ago
              SEV isn't just software. I don't know why you keep digging your hole deeper with these sorts of responses.
• codemog 5mo ago
  Someone give this man one hundred million dollars asap