5 ms·

Altman does appear to be an asshole, but I have bad news for you if you think Anthropic are the good guys. If anything, they might be worse than OpenAI.

azinman2 5mo ago
What makes you say that
BonerWiener 5mo ago
Can you elaborate or give some examples as to why? I dont know much about this subject, last i heard, Anthropic declined deals with Military and government agencies - while OpenAI opened their arms. But i am not
- MichaelDickens 5mo ago
  I wouldn't say Anthropic is worse than OpenAI, but there's a lot wrong with them. https://anthropic.ml/ https://anthropic.ml/ has a collection of incidents and relevant evidence.
  - danw1979 5mo ago
    Isn’t that site just loudly proclaiming that “pushing the frontier” of AI is inherently anti-social and that employees should be asking the public to “shut us all down” ? That’s their core argument against Anthropic, that they are making progress at improving their models ?
- mountainriver 5mo ago
  Anthropic believes they are the only people who should control AI. That alone is terrible. Also OpenAI has done actual work to try and mitigate the downstream negatives effects with UBI experiments. Sam isn’t perfect but it’s deeply unclear that he’s worse
  - Erem 5mo ago
    > Anthropic believes they are the only people who should control AI. I’ve seen this a few times in the thread. Can you or anyone provide a link that supports this claim?
    - forest32 5mo ago
      This seems to be a rumor being coordinated by OpenAI. There's OpenAI employees spreading this rumor on Twitter with 0 evidence. Their entire evidence is "I keep hearing Anthropic wants to control AI". Their evidence is literal rumors. https://x.com/_aidan_clark_/status/2052089187659346047 https://x.com/_aidan_clark_/status/2052089187659346047
      - samrus 5mo ago
        Yeah. And this thread seems so astroturfed. I get the feeling openAI is trying this sort of propaganda campaign out now that theyre desperate
enraged_camel 5mo ago
What makes you think Anthropic might be worse than OpenAI? Anything specific, or just vibes?
samrus 5mo ago
Is there any argument to back that up or are you just hoping to self-actualize this belief using vibes alone?

azinman2 5mo ago

What makes you say that

BonerWiener 5mo ago

Can you elaborate or give some examples as to why? I dont know much about this subject, last i heard, Anthropic declined deals with Military and government agencies - while OpenAI opened their arms. But i am not

MichaelDickens 5mo ago
I wouldn't say Anthropic is worse than OpenAI, but there's a lot wrong with them. https://anthropic.ml/ https://anthropic.ml/ has a collection of incidents and relevant evidence.
- danw1979 5mo ago
  Isn’t that site just loudly proclaiming that “pushing the frontier” of AI is inherently anti-social and that employees should be asking the public to “shut us all down” ? That’s their core argument against Anthropic, that they are making progress at improving their models ?
mountainriver 5mo ago
Anthropic believes they are the only people who should control AI. That alone is terrible. Also OpenAI has done actual work to try and mitigate the downstream negatives effects with UBI experiments. Sam isn’t perfect but it’s deeply unclear that he’s worse
- Erem 5mo ago
  > Anthropic believes they are the only people who should control AI. I’ve seen this a few times in the thread. Can you or anyone provide a link that supports this claim?
  - forest32 5mo ago
    This seems to be a rumor being coordinated by OpenAI. There's OpenAI employees spreading this rumor on Twitter with 0 evidence. Their entire evidence is "I keep hearing Anthropic wants to control AI". Their evidence is literal rumors. https://x.com/_aidan_clark_/status/2052089187659346047 https://x.com/_aidan_clark_/status/2052089187659346047
    - samrus 5mo ago
      Yeah. And this thread seems so astroturfed. I get the feeling openAI is trying this sort of propaganda campaign out now that theyre desperate

enraged_camel 5mo ago

What makes you think Anthropic might be worse than OpenAI? Anything specific, or just vibes?

samrus 5mo ago

Is there any argument to back that up or are you just hoping to self-actualize this belief using vibes alone?