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What web stuff are you guys working on that 16GB didn’t cut it a few years ago? I’m not questioning your statement, it’s just completely different world from my

by jnovek 5mo ago

What web stuff are you guys working on that 16GB didn’t cut it a few years ago? I’m not questioning your statement, it’s just completely different world from my day-to-day and I’m curious.

swiftcoder 5mo ago
In my case, the corporate MDM solution consumed so much resources that a 16GB MacBook was basically unusable for dev work (my personal Mac, also with 16GB in those days, was fine)
- p2detar 5mo ago
  I find it hard to believe that it was due to the MDM? The Apple MDM protocol is embedded in MacOS. Were you using some sort of agent software?
  - deleted 5mo ago
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  - mbreese 5mo ago
    (Many) Windows admins have no idea what to do with Macs. It’s very easy for overzealous agent antivirus and firewall software to suck up CPU resources. Particularly when it is written by a company with no idea how to write Mac software, bought and installed by admins that don’t use Macs. I had one set of “enterprise” software destroy the battery in my work Mac because of how it worked (and crashed). Meanwhile, my personal Mac was completely fine. Apple moving MDM related security software out of the kernel was the best thing they could have done for stability.
  - nerdsniper 5mo ago
    Both FireEye and Microsoft Defender make my MBP run super fucking hot and drain the battery from 100% -> 0% in <2 hours of just basic web browsing.
  - swiftcoder 5mo ago
    > Were you using some sort of agent software? Of course, corporate almost always does. I don't recall which vendor, but one of those security + policy + logging frameworks
- musicale 5mo ago
  Likely third-party "security" software. I can't believe CrowdStrike still exists after they vaporized billions of customer dollars and stranded people for days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_CrowdStrike-related_IT_outages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_CrowdStrike-related_IT_ou...
close04 5mo ago
Probably building web stuff. This is how you end up with software that needs buckets of RAM. Because the dev never felt the pain. The classic “works on my machine”. Every dev I know works on the beefiest machines they can get their hands on.
- normie3000 5mo ago
  Building web stuff doesn't require crazy hardware. Working on React and Vue apps, 16GB on a 6th gen Intel processor is fine today. Google Docs or Meet are more likely to cause issues.

by jnovek 5mo ago

What web stuff are you guys working on that 16GB didn’t cut it a few years ago? I’m not questioning your statement, it’s just completely different world from my day-to-day and I’m curious.

swiftcoder 5mo ago

In my case, the corporate MDM solution consumed so much resources that a 16GB MacBook was basically unusable for dev work (my personal Mac, also with 16GB in those days, was fine)

p2detar 5mo ago
I find it hard to believe that it was due to the MDM? The Apple MDM protocol is embedded in MacOS. Were you using some sort of agent software?
- deleted 5mo ago
  [deleted]
- mbreese 5mo ago
  (Many) Windows admins have no idea what to do with Macs. It’s very easy for overzealous agent antivirus and firewall software to suck up CPU resources. Particularly when it is written by a company with no idea how to write Mac software, bought and installed by admins that don’t use Macs. I had one set of “enterprise” software destroy the battery in my work Mac because of how it worked (and crashed). Meanwhile, my personal Mac was completely fine. Apple moving MDM related security software out of the kernel was the best thing they could have done for stability.
- nerdsniper 5mo ago
  Both FireEye and Microsoft Defender make my MBP run super fucking hot and drain the battery from 100% -> 0% in <2 hours of just basic web browsing.
- swiftcoder 5mo ago
  > Were you using some sort of agent software? Of course, corporate almost always does. I don't recall which vendor, but one of those security + policy + logging frameworks
musicale 5mo ago
Likely third-party "security" software. I can't believe CrowdStrike still exists after they vaporized billions of customer dollars and stranded people for days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_CrowdStrike-related_IT_outages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_CrowdStrike-related_IT_ou...

close04 5mo ago

Probably building web stuff. This is how you end up with software that needs buckets of RAM. Because the dev never felt the pain. The classic “works on my machine”. Every dev I know works on the beefiest machines they can get their hands on.

normie3000 5mo ago
Building web stuff doesn't require crazy hardware. Working on React and Vue apps, 16GB on a 6th gen Intel processor is fine today. Google Docs or Meet are more likely to cause issues.