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Republicans in power and the capitalist political class, sure. But the average American on the street? They don't want this.
by nielsbot 5mo ago
Republicans in power and the capitalist political class, sure. But the average American on the street? They don't want this.
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- chneu 5mo agoBut they're not willing to give up their 3rd Starbucks or the day or the door dash delivery or Amazon prime. They all too overworked. Only poors go to protests.
- hdgvhicv 5mo agoThey voted for this. In larger numbers than in 2020 and 2016.
- pindab0ter 5mo agoWhat is this "this" you're referring to? Was this on the ballot? Did Trump announce that he would do this? It seems very easy to just blame this on the voter like this.
- piva00 5mo agoThis = this person is clearly morally corrupt, displaying a pattern of behaviour over decades of being untrustworthy, a liar, and taking advantage for personal gains. People decided to elect that person, it's part of the package.
- footy 5mo agoI'm Canadian and I can tell you this was always part of Project 2025, which was extremely obviously the plan all along. So I don't know. Assuming the American voter can read and and access to the internet, it's kind of pathetic to imply they couldn't have known
- hdgvhicv 5mo agoJan 6th 2021 was on the ballot. You vote for Trump, or said “they’re as bad as each other”, you reap what you sow.
- rsynnott 5mo agoI mean, Trump was all but outright saying "I am going to be comically terrible"; the people voting for him presumably knew at least the broad strokes of what they'd be getting, if not the fine detail.
- ndsipa_pomu 5mo agoThe contents of Project 2025 were well publicised, so yes, the voters are very much to blame (assuming that the vote wasn't gamed by Musk et al)
- nielsbot 5mo agonon voters were the largest bloc and its understandable since lawmakers are largely unresponsive to their material needs. (bigger military budget every year, no universal healthcare plan, etc)
- nielsbot 5mo agoMay I propose an alternative for our politicians? Rather that saying “you better take your medicine like a grown up and be responsible and vote for our side” try being _actually compelling_ for a change. That’s it. Just offer the people what they want and stop catering to the ownership class.
- Arodex 5mo agoYou mean American voters have a clientele mentality. Let me remind you any of you could run for a seat. You don't need to belong to any political party. You can even rise through the ranks inside a party. Trump is even an example of a complete outsider turning upside-down one of the two main parties! Your complaint sounds a lot like "we tried nothing and we ran all out of ideas".
- nielsbot 5mo agothat is what i’m accusing the dems of. just as well you can say the wealthy people our government caters to also have a clientele mentality. and they get most of what they want. populists are running for more seats these days and they’re winning so maybe there’s hope.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 5mo agoThe average american on the street does not know how grant applications were approved before this change and they will continue to not know how grant applications are approved after this change.
- nielsbot 5mo agoit’s making the news a tiny bit more than before but we’re saying the same thing I think. i also think the importance of grants is a bit academic, so not a day to day concern.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 5mo agoGrants are important because they fuel the process by which we create highly trained scientists. It's not a day to day concern (except for the people who depend on them), in the short term, but would have longer term effects. I understand that there are people in the US who do not think that this is important and actually would prefer fewer scientists that are more poorly trained. There is nothing more infuriating then believing the world is flat and having some egghead prove it isn't.
- nielsbot 5mo agoI know grants are important. You know grants are important. When I say “academic” I mean not immediately relevant to most ordinary people who are trying to lay their mortgage etc. That’s a different group that the MAGA cult people who believe grants are a waste of public funds.