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This title editorializes. They are _alleged_ drug boats.

sameers 5mo ago
I think if you read it as "campaign meant for drug boats," it isn't editorialized. The actual boats struck are alleged drug boats indeed; the stated desire was to only hit actual "drug boats." At any rate, even if all the boats struck were carrying drugs in violation of American law, murdering the crew is still not an acceptable form of punishment.
- BugsJustFindMe 5mo ago
  If the desire were in any way to hit only actual drug boats then the boats would receive due process instead of murder. It is definitionally a campaign meant for alleged drug boats. > even if all the boats struck were carrying drugs in violation of American law, murdering the crew is still not an acceptable form of punishment. Agreed.
- yepyoukno 5mo ago
  The rationale (don’t karma kill the messenger for not liking my saying so) is that they are a foreign power invading the United States with the illicit intentions of doing catastrophic harm.
  - johng 5mo ago
    If any of this is fentanyl then it is very accurate to say that it leads to hundreds of thousands of deaths. And we've seen a very good decrease in fentanyl deaths -- though that could also be attributed to the higher availability of Narcan. Fentanyl remains a primary driver of overdose deaths, with synthetic opioids, primarily fentanyl, accounting for 60% of all overdose deaths in the United States last year, totaling about 48,000 people. While opioid overdose deaths remain high, there has been a decrease in fentanyl-involved deaths from 2023 to 2024. More National Fentanyl Overdose Data The CDC reports a 35.6% decrease in synthetic opioid overdose deaths from 2023 to 2024.
    - Arodex 5mo ago
      >Fentanyl remains a primary driver of overdose deaths You missed a few steps here: fentanyl isn't injecting itself magically into drug users when it arrives in the USA. >we've seen a very good decrease in fentanyl deaths -- though that could also be attributed to the higher availability of Narcan. And also just the fact there are less and less fentanyl drug users still alive. BTW, what happened to the members of the Sackler family?
  - BugsJustFindMe 5mo ago
    I think you mean they are _allegedly_ a foreign power _allegedly_ invading the United States with the _alleged_ illicit intentions of doing catastrophic harm.
no-name-here 5mo ago
The current title of the source: “Despite killing 200 people in attacks on suspected drug boats, US has done little to slow drug trade, experts say”
- BugsJustFindMe 5mo ago
  "suspected" is a key word in that title.
asdefghyk 5mo ago
RE"... title editorializes...." I agree. It seems I can not edit the title now.

I think if you read it as "campaign meant for drug boats," it isn't editorialized. The actual boats struck are alleged drug boats indeed; the stated desire was to only hit actual "drug boats." At any rate, even if all the boats struck were carrying drugs in violation of American law, murdering the crew is still not an acceptable form of punishment.

BugsJustFindMe 5mo ago
If the desire were in any way to hit only actual drug boats then the boats would receive due process instead of murder. It is definitionally a campaign meant for alleged drug boats. > even if all the boats struck were carrying drugs in violation of American law, murdering the crew is still not an acceptable form of punishment. Agreed.
yepyoukno 5mo ago
The rationale (don’t karma kill the messenger for not liking my saying so) is that they are a foreign power invading the United States with the illicit intentions of doing catastrophic harm.
- johng 5mo ago
  If any of this is fentanyl then it is very accurate to say that it leads to hundreds of thousands of deaths. And we've seen a very good decrease in fentanyl deaths -- though that could also be attributed to the higher availability of Narcan. Fentanyl remains a primary driver of overdose deaths, with synthetic opioids, primarily fentanyl, accounting for 60% of all overdose deaths in the United States last year, totaling about 48,000 people. While opioid overdose deaths remain high, there has been a decrease in fentanyl-involved deaths from 2023 to 2024. More National Fentanyl Overdose Data The CDC reports a 35.6% decrease in synthetic opioid overdose deaths from 2023 to 2024.
  - Arodex 5mo ago
    >Fentanyl remains a primary driver of overdose deaths You missed a few steps here: fentanyl isn't injecting itself magically into drug users when it arrives in the USA. >we've seen a very good decrease in fentanyl deaths -- though that could also be attributed to the higher availability of Narcan. And also just the fact there are less and less fentanyl drug users still alive. BTW, what happened to the members of the Sackler family?
- BugsJustFindMe 5mo ago
  I think you mean they are _allegedly_ a foreign power _allegedly_ invading the United States with the _alleged_ illicit intentions of doing catastrophic harm.

no-name-here 5mo ago

The current title of the source: “Despite killing 200 people in attacks on suspected drug boats, US has done little to slow drug trade, experts say”

BugsJustFindMe 5mo ago
"suspected" is a key word in that title.

asdefghyk 5mo ago

RE"... title editorializes...." I agree. It seems I can not edit the title now.