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Thanks, Europe!

by internet2000 4mo ago

Thanks, Europe!

tardedmeme 4mo ago
Yep. Without Europe, we'd have no idea which websites were trying to sell us out to the highest bidder.
- rubyfan 4mo ago
  Surprise, they all are!
dnnddidiej 4mo ago
Europe is why you have CCPA
Y-bar 4mo ago
Well… Europe do require the accept and deny options to both be equally visible and accessible, see for example this week-old court ruling: > Administrative Court (BVwG), thereby upholding a decision made by the Austrian Data Protection Authority in 2024. Specifically, the ORF must ensure that the buttons to ‘accept’ or ‘reject’ tracking cookies are designed equally so that visitors are not tricked into agreeing. https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-success-orfat-must-correct-misleading-cookie-banner https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-success-orfat-must-correct-misleadin...
ragebol 4mo ago
This whole cookie dickover concept is malicious compliance. The goal was: no tracking but ask consent if you must ("who would do this, that would be super annoying"). Except every website decided they'd rather annoy everyone.
- apple4ever 4mo ago
  A properly informed person would've understood that's what they'd do. They'd also probably realize cookies are not a big deal.
  - barnabee 4mo ago
    Tracking people around the web (especially without asking) is a big deal though.
    - rubyfan 4mo ago
      Right the intention was to stop unchecked surveillance capitalism, now they use the normalcy of annoyance to wear you down such that you auto accept terms that you probably wouldn’t agree to if you read them. That’s what they want now. This and other bad behavior will only go away when government says, “no this is predatory and you can’t do it” instead of saying “everything is OK if the user consents to it”.
  - ragebol 4mo ago
    Clicking a button could also not be a big deal, but yet here we are.
toxik 4mo ago
GDPR doesn't mandate cookie banners, it says that you simply cannot store irrelevant PII for the sake of it. That's the point of it: to protect the privacy of the public against "data brokers" and other scum. You're welcome. People seem to have forgotten, but cookie banners were a pest before GDPR. And newsletters and login popovers, those are GDPR?

Thanks, Europe!

tardedmeme 4mo ago

Yep. Without Europe, we'd have no idea which websites were trying to sell us out to the highest bidder.

rubyfan 4mo ago
Surprise, they all are!

dnnddidiej 4mo ago

Europe is why you have CCPA

Y-bar 4mo ago

Well… Europe do require the accept and deny options to both be equally visible and accessible, see for example this week-old court ruling: > Administrative Court (BVwG), thereby upholding a decision made by the Austrian Data Protection Authority in 2024. Specifically, the ORF must ensure that the buttons to ‘accept’ or ‘reject’ tracking cookies are designed equally so that visitors are not tricked into agreeing. https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-success-orfat-must-correct-misleading-cookie-banner https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-success-orfat-must-correct-misleadin...

ragebol 4mo ago

This whole cookie dickover concept is malicious compliance. The goal was: no tracking but ask consent if you must ("who would do this, that would be super annoying"). Except every website decided they'd rather annoy everyone.

apple4ever 4mo ago
A properly informed person would've understood that's what they'd do. They'd also probably realize cookies are not a big deal.
- barnabee 4mo ago
  Tracking people around the web (especially without asking) is a big deal though.
  - rubyfan 4mo ago
    Right the intention was to stop unchecked surveillance capitalism, now they use the normalcy of annoyance to wear you down such that you auto accept terms that you probably wouldn’t agree to if you read them. That’s what they want now. This and other bad behavior will only go away when government says, “no this is predatory and you can’t do it” instead of saying “everything is OK if the user consents to it”.
- ragebol 4mo ago
  Clicking a button could also not be a big deal, but yet here we are.

toxik 4mo ago

GDPR doesn't mandate cookie banners, it says that you simply cannot store irrelevant PII for the sake of it. That's the point of it: to protect the privacy of the public against "data brokers" and other scum. You're welcome. People seem to have forgotten, but cookie banners were a pest before GDPR. And newsletters and login popovers, those are GDPR?