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”We get training data.” E.g., photos of your children, an inventory of your books, the contents of your medicine cabinet. They may not have plans to sell this s

”We get training data.” E.g., photos of your children, an inventory of your books, the contents of your medicine cabinet. They may not have plans to sell this stuff, but whoever acquires them certainly will.

2OEH8eoCRo0 4mo ago
Finally a reason to display my Mega Butt VHS tape prominently in my library.
catapart 4mo ago
I wonder how long it will be before we see politician/celebrity houses with full 3d walkthroughs made from gaussian splats that source from this kind of "every type of interior in the world" mass data set. I wonder if that will prompt some kind of legislative action against this type of service.
- ljsprague 4mo ago
  There’s a scandal/controversy occurring right now after someone leaked photos of the inside of Ariana Grande’s apartment.
  - catapart 4mo ago
    yikes! that's pretty gross. I hope there's some appropriate consequences.
    - cindyllm 4mo ago
      [dead]
autoexec 4mo ago
Exactly and any "future robots" that are actually capable of cleaning your home will be doing the same thing. It'd be streaming 24/7 audio/video/sensor data of everyone and everything in your home back to the company where all of it will be analyzed and used to make assumptions about you and your family which will be sold and resold. At this point I wouldn't allow an internet connected roomba into my home, I'm sure as hell not going to let a robot maid in.
- slicktux 4mo ago
  I’m a little more hopeful that the future will allow for local (network free) frontier AI technology. Being that I’m a tech enthusiast and computer science nerd I tend to live less on the bleeding edge of technology because of privacy infringing hardware. Take for example meta glasses. So many people have adopted them because they don’t care about privacy as much as I do. So they get to live with the latest and greatest. Though, running a local LLM on my laptop (that is state of the art) has made me a little more hopeful that the future is around the corner. Who would have thought that one day we could run advanced AI on a laptop that’s able to do RAG and CAG.
  - autoexec 4mo ago
    I fully agree that the only hope is offline/open source systems that we can verify are working for us and not anyone else. The more complex the hardware is the more difficult it'll be to keep them safe. To avoid bugging my home it's easy enough to open up my PS5 controllers to pull the two microphones out, but I imagine it'll be a lot more work to make sure there are no radios connected to a SoC tucked away somewhere in a household robot. I'm not sure I'd call meta glasses the "latest and greatest". Even if there were no privacy concerns I wouldn't feel left out when it comes to giving facebook the ability to plaster ads on every surface in your field of vision. The tech has a lot of potential, but the product people are using today is trash I feel better off without.
- Bender 4mo ago
  I think an interesting case would be if the data was provided to law enforcement directly or indirectly and they use it to gain access to a home if they see drug paraphernalia crack pipe or other items of interest illegal weapons under exigent circumstances or similar laws. Autonomous robots could become the ultimate snitch. Would a robot report a wife beater? Child abuser? Could a robot legally physically intervene if a human cries for help from another human? Will the robots be hacker proof? Will robots assassinate people in their sleep?
  - autoexec 4mo ago
janice1999 4mo ago
... and also share those images with dozens of companies and potentially have those images leak online. Example: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/photos-robot-roomba-vacuums/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/photos-robot-roomba-vacuum...
whodidntante 4mo ago
The Audacity of these people
m463 4mo ago
Slum lords will love this between renters. or airbnb owners. Even though it is free, they could even take it from the deposit of renters moving out.
- charcircuit 4mo ago
  I would prefer that $0 for cleaning gets taken out of my deposit.
doctorpangloss 4mo ago
your photos of your kids, your books, and the contents of your medicine cabinet are already in a bunch of giant corporations' databases attributed to you...
micromacrofoot 4mo ago
they don't need photos, they already know everything you buy
TZubiri 4mo ago
>"hey may not have plans to sell this stuff, but whoever acquires them certainly will." If accquirer acquires, it's because seller sold.

2OEH8eoCRo0 4mo ago

Finally a reason to display my Mega Butt VHS tape prominently in my library.

catapart 4mo ago

I wonder how long it will be before we see politician/celebrity houses with full 3d walkthroughs made from gaussian splats that source from this kind of "every type of interior in the world" mass data set. I wonder if that will prompt some kind of legislative action against this type of service.

ljsprague 4mo ago
There’s a scandal/controversy occurring right now after someone leaked photos of the inside of Ariana Grande’s apartment.
- catapart 4mo ago
  yikes! that's pretty gross. I hope there's some appropriate consequences.
  - cindyllm 4mo ago
    [dead]

autoexec 4mo ago

Exactly and any "future robots" that are actually capable of cleaning your home will be doing the same thing. It'd be streaming 24/7 audio/video/sensor data of everyone and everything in your home back to the company where all of it will be analyzed and used to make assumptions about you and your family which will be sold and resold. At this point I wouldn't allow an internet connected roomba into my home, I'm sure as hell not going to let a robot maid in.

slicktux 4mo ago
I’m a little more hopeful that the future will allow for local (network free) frontier AI technology. Being that I’m a tech enthusiast and computer science nerd I tend to live less on the bleeding edge of technology because of privacy infringing hardware. Take for example meta glasses. So many people have adopted them because they don’t care about privacy as much as I do. So they get to live with the latest and greatest. Though, running a local LLM on my laptop (that is state of the art) has made me a little more hopeful that the future is around the corner. Who would have thought that one day we could run advanced AI on a laptop that’s able to do RAG and CAG.
- autoexec 4mo ago
  I fully agree that the only hope is offline/open source systems that we can verify are working for us and not anyone else. The more complex the hardware is the more difficult it'll be to keep them safe. To avoid bugging my home it's easy enough to open up my PS5 controllers to pull the two microphones out, but I imagine it'll be a lot more work to make sure there are no radios connected to a SoC tucked away somewhere in a household robot. I'm not sure I'd call meta glasses the "latest and greatest". Even if there were no privacy concerns I wouldn't feel left out when it comes to giving facebook the ability to plaster ads on every surface in your field of vision. The tech has a lot of potential, but the product people are using today is trash I feel better off without.
Bender 4mo ago
I think an interesting case would be if the data was provided to law enforcement directly or indirectly and they use it to gain access to a home if they see drug paraphernalia crack pipe or other items of interest illegal weapons under exigent circumstances or similar laws. Autonomous robots could become the ultimate snitch. Would a robot report a wife beater? Child abuser? Could a robot legally physically intervene if a human cries for help from another human? Will the robots be hacker proof? Will robots assassinate people in their sleep?
- autoexec 4mo ago

janice1999 4mo ago

... and also share those images with dozens of companies and potentially have those images leak online. Example: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/photos-robot-roomba-vacuums/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/photos-robot-roomba-vacuum...

whodidntante 4mo ago

The Audacity of these people

m463 4mo ago

Slum lords will love this between renters. or airbnb owners. Even though it is free, they could even take it from the deposit of renters moving out.

charcircuit 4mo ago
I would prefer that $0 for cleaning gets taken out of my deposit.

doctorpangloss 4mo ago

your photos of your kids, your books, and the contents of your medicine cabinet are already in a bunch of giant corporations' databases attributed to you...

micromacrofoot 4mo ago

they don't need photos, they already know everything you buy

TZubiri 4mo ago

>"hey may not have plans to sell this stuff, but whoever acquires them certainly will." If accquirer acquires, it's because seller sold.