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It may list fast, but it covers many more securities from what I understand so it’s insulated. I think the fact is that any broad market ETF is gonna own at lea

It may list fast, but it covers many more securities from what I understand so it’s insulated. I think the fact is that any broad market ETF is gonna own at least some piece of a $1 trillion company.

felixgallo 4mo ago
well that's the problem, right? There is no justification for a trillion dollar Elon Musk valuation. And he and his investors know this. That's why they're trying to change the rules to dump the stock while it's irrational on every investor in the world. If they really believed in the value of the company, would they be bribing people to scam the index funds?
- toomuchtodo 4mo ago
  Indeed, it's like robbing a bank while the bank is holding a party. Except its everyone's portfolios who are invested in the index funds with potential exposure in scope. High level, it's concerning to observe this unfold while almost every asset class is at its peak and there is no one willing to purchase (office real estate [1] [2], private equity [3], us equities [4], crypto, etc). Late Stage Capital Markets when you've exhausted greater fools available. [1] Office Real Estate Is Facing ‘a Year of Reckoning’ in 2025 - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-12-18/commercial-real-estate-can-no-longer-ignore-its-problems https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-12-18/commercia... | https://archive.today/fTPSY https://archive.today/fTPSY - December 18, 2024 [2] Blackstone Is About to Take a 54% Loss on Iconic Seattle Tower - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-29/blackstone-is-about-to-take-a-54-loss-on-iconic-seattle-tower https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-29/blackston... | https://archive.today/fcA8W https://archive.today/fcA8W - May 29, 2026 [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47049024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47049024 (citations) [4] BlackRock Scales Back Equities After ‘Generational’ Earnings [Peak S&P] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-29/blackrock-scales-back-equities-after-generational-earnings https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-29/blackrock... | https://archive.today/lMIcH https://archive.today/lMIcH - May 29th, 2026
- stouset 4mo ago
  VTI is float-adjusted so it will not treat SpaceX as if it has a trillion-dollar valuation. It will only consider the publicly tradable portion.
svachalek 4mo ago
The additional securities it includes are weighted by market cap though. So a total market fund ends up being 80% S&P 500, and even if they add thousands more companies those all fit in the 20% slot.

felixgallo 4mo ago

well that's the problem, right? There is no justification for a trillion dollar Elon Musk valuation. And he and his investors know this. That's why they're trying to change the rules to dump the stock while it's irrational on every investor in the world. If they really believed in the value of the company, would they be bribing people to scam the index funds?

toomuchtodo 4mo ago
Indeed, it's like robbing a bank while the bank is holding a party. Except its everyone's portfolios who are invested in the index funds with potential exposure in scope. High level, it's concerning to observe this unfold while almost every asset class is at its peak and there is no one willing to purchase (office real estate [1] [2], private equity [3], us equities [4], crypto, etc). Late Stage Capital Markets when you've exhausted greater fools available. [1] Office Real Estate Is Facing ‘a Year of Reckoning’ in 2025 - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-12-18/commercial-real-estate-can-no-longer-ignore-its-problems https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-12-18/commercia... | https://archive.today/fTPSY https://archive.today/fTPSY - December 18, 2024 [2] Blackstone Is About to Take a 54% Loss on Iconic Seattle Tower - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-29/blackstone-is-about-to-take-a-54-loss-on-iconic-seattle-tower https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-29/blackston... | https://archive.today/fcA8W https://archive.today/fcA8W - May 29, 2026 [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47049024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47049024 (citations) [4] BlackRock Scales Back Equities After ‘Generational’ Earnings [Peak S&P] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-29/blackrock-scales-back-equities-after-generational-earnings https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-29/blackrock... | https://archive.today/lMIcH https://archive.today/lMIcH - May 29th, 2026
stouset 4mo ago
VTI is float-adjusted so it will not treat SpaceX as if it has a trillion-dollar valuation. It will only consider the publicly tradable portion.

svachalek 4mo ago

The additional securities it includes are weighted by market cap though. So a total market fund ends up being 80% S&P 500, and even if they add thousands more companies those all fit in the 20% slot.