>> "But the mobile web will eventually just be the web. And a big part of getting it there is to get the tools that allow us to seamlessly consume rich media on

>> "But the mobile web will eventually just be the web. And a big part of getting it there is to get the tools that allow us to seamlessly consume rich media on the web onto mobile devices. To me that means Flash." To me, and hopefully Apple, that means <video> <audio> etc - standards based media. Using Flash to do video and audio is a horrible hack. If browsers had <video> and <audio> 10 years ago, I think flash would have died off in usage just as Java applets have.