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Uncles don’t let relatives buy less than 16gb ram. That has been my standard since ~2010 and our 2013 mbp is still running fine because I insisted on it. I pr
by mixmastamyk 5mo ago
Uncles don’t let relatives buy less than 16gb ram. That has been my standard since ~2010 and our 2013 mbp is still running fine because I insisted on it.
I prefer FW for freedom reasons, that’s worth a few hundred as well as the ram. Would also wait for the new intel chipset that is more efficient however.
Finally I think the FW 12 is weirdly positioned, as the 13 is already thin and light. For a tablet, I recommend the Star Labs Starlite instead. Both in same package? Clunky.
Guess I’d recommend a used FW 13 and Starlite instead. That’s what I have now and no real reason to upgrade, and freedom to tinker is off the charts, perfect for a student.
- Mashimo 5mo ago> Uncles don’t let relatives buy less than 16gb ram. That has been my standard since ~2010 and our 2013 mbp is still running fine because I insisted on it. Just last weekend I bought 8gb ram thinkpad t14 for an elderly relative. 240 EUR. It replaces his thinkpad x220 where the fan and ssd slowly dies. I doubt it becomes an issue, and if it does then I can upgrade it later.
- mixmastamyk 5mo agoYou can do it once and spend an extra hundred dollars or do it twice, including occasional restrictions to the user. Poor tradeoff imho. This is a young person with a long life ahead, we shouldn’t buy disposable ewaste with a short life.
- Mashimo 5mo ago> we shouldn’t buy disposable ewaste with a short life. Indeed. That makes two of us.
- NicuCalcea 5mo agoSomeone has to buy that (presumably second-hand) laptop to prevent it from becoming e-waste. 8GB can be plenty for a student, most don't need much beyond a browser and PowerPoint. Many of my university colleagues were using new $5,000+ MacBook Pros exclusively for Google Docs, that seems more wasteful to me.
- entropie 5mo ago8gb ram is not enough for normal browsing if you are forced to use windows 11 which eats easily half of it.
- slopinthebag 5mo agoMacBooks don't need as much ram - I have an m1 air with 8gb of ram and it's perfectly serviceable, I can even run IntelliJ on it...
- mixmastamyk 5mo agoCompared to what? Not really true, and hard on the swap drive. Penny-wise meet pound.
- slopinthebag 5mo agoWell it's still kicking just fine years later, shrug
- cromka 5mo agoI never run out of memory on macoOS on my M1 Air 16GB. Now that I use Asahi on it, I had plenty of OoM crashes. macOS is really good at memory management, including the compression and offloading to the fast SSD.
- mixmastamyk 5mo agoYou have a buggy program. Zswap has been available for quite a while.
- baq 5mo agoI'm yet to see a linux distro with memory configured correctly out of the box. (I haven't looked too hard, but the defaults are abysmal.)
- cromka 5mo agoStill can't help the fact memory management on macOS is vastly better with its use of pages compression and unlimited swap.
- mixmastamyk 5mo ago