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How is this different from any other form of identification? If you are stripped of that you still wouldn't be able to access these services.

M95D 4mo ago
I never heard of an ID card being revoked. Reasons for refusing to renew it are also very few in my country - like not having a place to live (owned or rented).
- FpUser 4mo ago
  So homeless might be refused ID? They're no longer a person?
  - lifestyleguru 4mo ago
    What otherwise will you do with people priced out of the real estate market and unable to compile valid elaborate application documents to rent something? /s
    - FpUser 4mo ago
      Soylent Green?
tamimio 4mo ago
The difference is the link between your digital footprint and real life one. Without a digital ID, there’s a huge margin of using many digital services while maintaining a privacy, even more, anonymity too. With a digital ID, there’s a connected link between the two, further expanding the surveillance capabilities, coupled with AI to profile user’s sentiment and emotions (in Canada, they admit that will be one of the use cases https://www.canada.ca/en/government/system/digital-government/digital-government-innovations/responsible-use-ai/consultations-ai-strategy-federal-public-service-what-we-heard.html https://www.canada.ca/en/government/system/digital-governmen...), you will end up in some monitored list for just stating some online opinions, if not even getting a visit, or more. There are even tools are being sold to do that, an israeli company called logivote made a tool to scan the social media and check who bad mouthed the politicians. So expect in the near future, you bad mouth one, you get sent to jail the next day, or debanked.
- lifestyleguru 4mo ago
  Jeez Israel is going at full speed... recently when attempting to create an account at one of the brokers based in EU I was redirected to do a "friendly 3D full face scan" with another Israeli company - Au10tix. I noped out of the website instantly. Looking further their parent company is doing "aviation security services", oh how convenient!

M95D 4mo ago

I never heard of an ID card being revoked. Reasons for refusing to renew it are also very few in my country - like not having a place to live (owned or rented).

FpUser 4mo ago
So homeless might be refused ID? They're no longer a person?
- lifestyleguru 4mo ago
  What otherwise will you do with people priced out of the real estate market and unable to compile valid elaborate application documents to rent something? /s
  - FpUser 4mo ago
    Soylent Green?

tamimio 4mo ago

The difference is the link between your digital footprint and real life one. Without a digital ID, there’s a huge margin of using many digital services while maintaining a privacy, even more, anonymity too. With a digital ID, there’s a connected link between the two, further expanding the surveillance capabilities, coupled with AI to profile user’s sentiment and emotions (in Canada, they admit that will be one of the use cases https://www.canada.ca/en/government/system/digital-government/digital-government-innovations/responsible-use-ai/consultations-ai-strategy-federal-public-service-what-we-heard.html https://www.canada.ca/en/government/system/digital-governmen...), you will end up in some monitored list for just stating some online opinions, if not even getting a visit, or more. There are even tools are being sold to do that, an israeli company called logivote made a tool to scan the social media and check who bad mouthed the politicians. So expect in the near future, you bad mouth one, you get sent to jail the next day, or debanked.

lifestyleguru 4mo ago
Jeez Israel is going at full speed... recently when attempting to create an account at one of the brokers based in EU I was redirected to do a "friendly 3D full face scan" with another Israeli company - Au10tix. I noped out of the website instantly. Looking further their parent company is doing "aviation security services", oh how convenient!