3 ms·
Many of those features were already available in MS-DOS and Windows 3.x IDEs from Borland for Turbo Pascal and C++. Which is why when I got into UNIX developme
by pjmlp 5mo ago
Many of those features were already available in MS-DOS and Windows 3.x IDEs from Borland for Turbo Pascal and C++.
Which is why when I got into UNIX development felt like going into the stone age of development tools, thankfully XEmacs was already there.
Which by the way, it was born for Energize C++, in 1993!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQQTScuApWk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQQTScuApWk
Also here is what NeXTSTEP development environment looked like, used for Quake tooling development, in a 1991 marketing video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGhfB-NICzg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGhfB-NICzg
Which is why, I usually assert I cannot understand the nostalgia of CLI and TUI, being there at the time, and not being able to use some of these systems, due to the amount of money they required.
- joe_mamba 5mo ago>Which is why, I usually assert I cannot understand the nostalgia of CLI and TUI Elitism
- pjmlp 5mo agoYeah, right. :) https://www.reddit.com/r/cinescenes/comments/18h22ug/hackers_1995_1337_books https://www.reddit.com/r/cinescenes/comments/18h22ug/hackers...
- i_am_a_peasant 5mo agosometimes you wanna do debugging on a device that has no screen or ethernet port too
- pjmlp 5mo agoDebugging can be done even by serial ports and JTAG.
- skydhash 5mo ago> Which is why, I usually assert I cannot understand the nostalgia of CLI and TUI, being there at the time, and not being able to use some of these systems, due to the amount of money they required. I was not there at the time, but one appeal of CLI (not TUI) is scripting. After a while, you have all your routine packaged in nice alias and commands. And that’s universal across all languages and projects.
- pjmlp 5mo agoThat is achievable with proper REPLs.
- rahen 5mo ago[dead]
- kristopolous 5mo agoThe appeal of the cli/tui is because agents can use them better and because people want to ssh in and just use something without any fuss or lag And I know the hn reply, it's "what do you mean? all you have to do is this other thing over here" and that's the point ... people don't want to. So they don't.
- pjmlp 5mo agoI rather use orchestration engines like Langflow, Opal, workato,..