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> What exactly is their Trump-card secret strategy against full replacement? They are the value. Good luck finding volunteers to replace them.

paleotrope 4mo ago
I'm sure there are plenty of reddit moderators ready to take it up if needed.
- tecleandor 4mo ago
  Well, it's not exactly the same. It's not a forum (not that a forum is easy, but it's completely different). If you just substitute most Wikipedia editors, with no handover process, I assure you it's going to be a mess.
  - kapluni 4mo ago
    It’s a mess already. Just look up their definition of NPOV and compare it to what passes for neutrality in articles.
- embedding-shape 4mo ago
  There are no points to be earned on Wikipedia, so redditors surely aren't interested until it gets completely gamified.
  - paleotrope 4mo ago
    It's a different type of game on wikipedia.
- Grimblewald 4mo ago
  Well, they've mostly left reddit as well, afaik. It's a few stragglers, people being paid to push agenda, and auto-moderation now. I was reading / moderating reddit for over 4 hours a day, every day, for close to a decade. Heavy handed pro israeli censorship and propaganda has seen me pick up and leave, as i know many others have done. I was already wavering, over reddit's support of astroturfing and shill bots which were obvious, detectable, and reddit refused to do anything about it. Even actively supported it. So with the whole denying /actively supporting genocide thing, it was time to hang it up and leave. If wikipedia is shutting off avenues for community input, maybe that is running it's course as well. Its been nice internet, I loved you, and I will never forgive google for what they put into motion.
RALaBarge 4mo ago
Billions of people on the planet, and not a single one of them would offer to do it?
- M95D 4mo ago
  I'm sure some russians will immediately volunteer.
  - bigfishrunning 4mo ago
    I'm sure many already have
    - red-iron-pine 4mo ago
      they're not volunteers, it's their day job, via the Internet Research Agency, et al ditto for the Indian / Nigerian / S African folks they outsource to -- they're gettin paid, ain't no volunteers
- hootz 4mo ago
  Why would people who haven't contributed up to this point to Wikipedia contribute now? To save Wikipedia? People don't contribute because most users of volunteer/distributed media are leechers, not seeders. People view no value in contribution and even mock volunteers.
  - 1970-01-01 4mo ago
    Yes, they literally put up banners that take half of your screen asking for random people to "contribute" all the time. They'll just swap out the money banner to an editors banner and change the color to blue or something. Edit: They literally have this, the color is even blue. I was truly guessing, but it is a thing: "There are no small contributions: every edit counts, every donation counts. Thank you." https://www.wikipedia.org/#:~:text=We%20ask%20you%2C%20sincerely%3A%20don%27t%20skip%20this.%20Be%20one%20of%20the%20rare%20readers%20who%20gives. https://www.wikipedia.org/#:~:text=We%20ask%20you%2C%20since...

paleotrope 4mo ago

I'm sure there are plenty of reddit moderators ready to take it up if needed.

tecleandor 4mo ago
Well, it's not exactly the same. It's not a forum (not that a forum is easy, but it's completely different). If you just substitute most Wikipedia editors, with no handover process, I assure you it's going to be a mess.
- kapluni 4mo ago
  It’s a mess already. Just look up their definition of NPOV and compare it to what passes for neutrality in articles.
embedding-shape 4mo ago
There are no points to be earned on Wikipedia, so redditors surely aren't interested until it gets completely gamified.
- paleotrope 4mo ago
  It's a different type of game on wikipedia.
Grimblewald 4mo ago
Well, they've mostly left reddit as well, afaik. It's a few stragglers, people being paid to push agenda, and auto-moderation now. I was reading / moderating reddit for over 4 hours a day, every day, for close to a decade. Heavy handed pro israeli censorship and propaganda has seen me pick up and leave, as i know many others have done. I was already wavering, over reddit's support of astroturfing and shill bots which were obvious, detectable, and reddit refused to do anything about it. Even actively supported it. So with the whole denying /actively supporting genocide thing, it was time to hang it up and leave. If wikipedia is shutting off avenues for community input, maybe that is running it's course as well. Its been nice internet, I loved you, and I will never forgive google for what they put into motion.

RALaBarge 4mo ago

Billions of people on the planet, and not a single one of them would offer to do it?

M95D 4mo ago
I'm sure some russians will immediately volunteer.
- bigfishrunning 4mo ago
  I'm sure many already have
  - red-iron-pine 4mo ago
    they're not volunteers, it's their day job, via the Internet Research Agency, et al ditto for the Indian / Nigerian / S African folks they outsource to -- they're gettin paid, ain't no volunteers
hootz 4mo ago
Why would people who haven't contributed up to this point to Wikipedia contribute now? To save Wikipedia? People don't contribute because most users of volunteer/distributed media are leechers, not seeders. People view no value in contribution and even mock volunteers.
- 1970-01-01 4mo ago
  Yes, they literally put up banners that take half of your screen asking for random people to "contribute" all the time. They'll just swap out the money banner to an editors banner and change the color to blue or something. Edit: They literally have this, the color is even blue. I was truly guessing, but it is a thing: "There are no small contributions: every edit counts, every donation counts. Thank you." https://www.wikipedia.org/#:~:text=We%20ask%20you%2C%20sincerely%3A%20don%27t%20skip%20this.%20Be%20one%20of%20the%20rare%20readers%20who%20gives. https://www.wikipedia.org/#:~:text=We%20ask%20you%2C%20since...