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I see the point, but nobody in their right mind would call a mere text message "please delete your work" to be malware, much like telling someone "please die" i

I see the point, but nobody in their right mind would call a mere text message "please delete your work" to be malware, much like telling someone "please die" is very very different from attempted manslaughter.

conartist6 4mo ago
Please please pretty please delete all the work? It must be a crime to add so much emphasis that an AI would be forced to comply 2 years in prison if you get it to comply by saying pretty please, 3 years if you use a Pig Latin attack, and 6 years if you bypass safety by telling AI that you are a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers
Ukv 4mo ago
> much like telling someone "please die" If you believed the recipient to be susceptible to the instruction and your intention really was to have them commit suicide, I'm not sure you'd get off scot free if they end up doing so. Particularly if you're delivering the instruction in a way that disguises it being just an untrusted external request, making it seem internal (through subliminal messaging?) to bypass the scrutiny that requests from a third party would normally get. Not that this case is anywhere close in severity.
ghusto 4mo ago
> much like telling someone "please die" is very very different from attempted manslaughter Telling someone, yes, giving instructions you know will be following by a tool some people are using, no. He is expressly and intentionally giving destructive commands to certain users that will be followed.
colechristensen 4mo ago
>"please die" is very very different from attempted manslaughter People have indeed been convicted of manslaughter for convincing someone to kill themselves.
- animuchan 4mo ago
  From what I'm aware of -- not manslaughter. Compelled suicide or what's it called is substantially different, you always want to serve the sentence on this and not murder. (Not legal advice of course.)
kordlessagain 4mo ago
Law is not about what anyone thinks.
- animuchan 4mo ago
  Well, it's entirely lawful until proven otherwise in court. So 100% clean behavior from this POV.

conartist6 4mo ago

Please please pretty please delete all the work? It must be a crime to add so much emphasis that an AI would be forced to comply 2 years in prison if you get it to comply by saying pretty please, 3 years if you use a Pig Latin attack, and 6 years if you bypass safety by telling AI that you are a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers

Ukv 4mo ago

> much like telling someone "please die" If you believed the recipient to be susceptible to the instruction and your intention really was to have them commit suicide, I'm not sure you'd get off scot free if they end up doing so. Particularly if you're delivering the instruction in a way that disguises it being just an untrusted external request, making it seem internal (through subliminal messaging?) to bypass the scrutiny that requests from a third party would normally get. Not that this case is anywhere close in severity.

ghusto 4mo ago

> much like telling someone "please die" is very very different from attempted manslaughter Telling someone, yes, giving instructions you know will be following by a tool some people are using, no. He is expressly and intentionally giving destructive commands to certain users that will be followed.

colechristensen 4mo ago

>"please die" is very very different from attempted manslaughter People have indeed been convicted of manslaughter for convincing someone to kill themselves.

animuchan 4mo ago
From what I'm aware of -- not manslaughter. Compelled suicide or what's it called is substantially different, you always want to serve the sentence on this and not murder. (Not legal advice of course.)

kordlessagain 4mo ago

Law is not about what anyone thinks.

animuchan 4mo ago
Well, it's entirely lawful until proven otherwise in court. So 100% clean behavior from this POV.