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> They even requested access to a ULA building to see if a sniper could have taken a shot at the rocket. > It turned out to be an exotic failure: liquid oxygen

by xethos 4mo ago

> They even requested access to a ULA building to see if a sniper could have taken a shot at the rocket. > It turned out to be an exotic failure: liquid oxygen had gotten caught inside a buckled liner I gotta say, suspecting "Rival company hired a sniper" before "Dealing with liquid oxygen is very fucking hard and incredibly flammable" feels very Elon

infinitewars 4mo ago
The real concern was Russia, given SpaceX has always been a MIC project, now publicly manifest as "Golden Dome" .. a program which undermines M.A.D. and obviously greatly incentives sabotage. There just happened to be a ULA building nearby that was in range and investigated as a possible vector of attack.
- nixass 4mo ago
  > now publicly manifest as "Golden Dome "Golden" goes perfectly in line with the current president's office decor
  - ted_bunny 4mo ago
    "Home Depot presents the Apparently Gilded Dome" didn't have the same ring
- panick21_ 4mo ago
  People need to stop with this SpaceX has always been about golden dome theory. Its just a silly conspiricy theory that boils down to, lots of people have worked in the US space industry for a long time.
coarise 4mo ago
>feels very Elon why
- copper-float 4mo ago
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  - pineaux 4mo ago
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  - YeahThisIsMe 4mo ago
    Go to bed, Elon.
  - ap99 4mo ago
    100% Bandwagon-ers who parrot media/youtube/socialmedia. Waiting to be told who to hate next.
    - bakies 4mo ago
      Yeah they shouldn't have posted that Nazi salute!!!
      - avazhi 4mo ago
        Irrelevant to his ability to run a company that makes good rockets at an efficient price, so... who cares? This is exactly the point of the person you're replying to. The ad hominem destroys your ability to recognise how insanely good SpaceX and Elon are at this rocket ship thing. Actual Nazis made a lot of stuff 75 years ago that you use and take advantage of on a daily basis. Nobody's judging you, dude. Appreciating and recognising a good scientist or businessman doesn't necessitate that you align with them ideologically.
        JKCalhoun 4mo ago
        But "running the company" also involved claiming a sniper agent may have been to blame. I think it's apropos then to consider that this is the same guy who called someone who rescued children stuck in a cave a "pedo". This is a guy who has made some unfortunate public statements.
aaron695 4mo ago
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small_model 4mo ago
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christophilus 4mo ago
It reminds me of my younger self when I encountered inexplicable behavior in my own software, “I think I found a bug in Firefox!” … “Oh, nope. I forgot to add an event handler.”
- glimshe 4mo ago
  The modern version of "It must be a compiler bug!"
  - consp 4mo ago
    I thought it was cosmic rays which always cause the bitflip when you least expect it.
  - bagels 4mo ago
    Using c++ templates wrong in the year 2000 exposed me to real compiler bugs in the Microsoft c++ compiler at the time, the kind that would make the compiler crash.
  - admissionsguy 4mo ago
    The modern version is "LLMs produce bad code"
    - deltaburnt 4mo ago
      LLMs aren't nearly mature or deterministic enough to earn that distinction. I've had an agent tell me it read a link I gave it, when actually it lied. I don't see how you could possibly compare that to a compiler where thinking "maybe it's a compiler bug" means you've almost certainly missed something.
  - genxy 4mo ago
    Compiler bugs are not as rare as they are quipped to be on forums. I mean, more rare for the quippers due to allocation of time.
    - 4mo ago
pwillia7 4mo ago
Relevant WKUK sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpC_hO15IoA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpC_hO15IoA
ClarityJones 4mo ago
We hear about how dealing with liquid oxygen is hard. I don't know that we hear about industrial sabotage.
energy123 4mo ago
You're assuming "before" when it's probably "investigate 100 possible causes in parallel".
- brookst 4mo ago
  I didn’t see that assumption. And I agree “leap to sabotage” sounds a lot like ~~Galt~~ Elon.
SoftTalker 4mo ago
Dealing with liquid oxygen is hard, but we've been dealing with it in rocket engines since the 1940s at least. It's not a mystery, but like anything in aerospace, as the saying goes, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect.

by xethos 4mo ago

infinitewars 4mo ago

The real concern was Russia, given SpaceX has always been a MIC project, now publicly manifest as "Golden Dome" .. a program which undermines M.A.D. and obviously greatly incentives sabotage. There just happened to be a ULA building nearby that was in range and investigated as a possible vector of attack.

nixass 4mo ago
> now publicly manifest as "Golden Dome "Golden" goes perfectly in line with the current president's office decor
- ted_bunny 4mo ago
  "Home Depot presents the Apparently Gilded Dome" didn't have the same ring
panick21_ 4mo ago
People need to stop with this SpaceX has always been about golden dome theory. Its just a silly conspiricy theory that boils down to, lots of people have worked in the US space industry for a long time.

coarise 4mo ago

>feels very Elon why

copper-float 4mo ago
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- pineaux 4mo ago
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- YeahThisIsMe 4mo ago
  Go to bed, Elon.
- ap99 4mo ago
  100% Bandwagon-ers who parrot media/youtube/socialmedia. Waiting to be told who to hate next.
  - bakies 4mo ago
    Yeah they shouldn't have posted that Nazi salute!!!
    - avazhi 4mo ago
      Irrelevant to his ability to run a company that makes good rockets at an efficient price, so... who cares? This is exactly the point of the person you're replying to. The ad hominem destroys your ability to recognise how insanely good SpaceX and Elon are at this rocket ship thing. Actual Nazis made a lot of stuff 75 years ago that you use and take advantage of on a daily basis. Nobody's judging you, dude. Appreciating and recognising a good scientist or businessman doesn't necessitate that you align with them ideologically.
      - JKCalhoun 4mo ago
        But "running the company" also involved claiming a sniper agent may have been to blame. I think it's apropos then to consider that this is the same guy who called someone who rescued children stuck in a cave a "pedo". This is a guy who has made some unfortunate public statements.

aaron695 4mo ago

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small_model 4mo ago

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christophilus 4mo ago

It reminds me of my younger self when I encountered inexplicable behavior in my own software, “I think I found a bug in Firefox!” … “Oh, nope. I forgot to add an event handler.”

glimshe 4mo ago
The modern version of "It must be a compiler bug!"
- consp 4mo ago
  I thought it was cosmic rays which always cause the bitflip when you least expect it.
- bagels 4mo ago
  Using c++ templates wrong in the year 2000 exposed me to real compiler bugs in the Microsoft c++ compiler at the time, the kind that would make the compiler crash.
- admissionsguy 4mo ago
  The modern version is "LLMs produce bad code"
  - deltaburnt 4mo ago
    LLMs aren't nearly mature or deterministic enough to earn that distinction. I've had an agent tell me it read a link I gave it, when actually it lied. I don't see how you could possibly compare that to a compiler where thinking "maybe it's a compiler bug" means you've almost certainly missed something.
- genxy 4mo ago
  Compiler bugs are not as rare as they are quipped to be on forums. I mean, more rare for the quippers due to allocation of time.
  - 4mo ago

pwillia7 4mo ago

Relevant WKUK sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpC_hO15IoA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpC_hO15IoA

ClarityJones 4mo ago

We hear about how dealing with liquid oxygen is hard. I don't know that we hear about industrial sabotage.

energy123 4mo ago

You're assuming "before" when it's probably "investigate 100 possible causes in parallel".

brookst 4mo ago
I didn’t see that assumption. And I agree “leap to sabotage” sounds a lot like ~~Galt~~ Elon.

SoftTalker 4mo ago

Dealing with liquid oxygen is hard, but we've been dealing with it in rocket engines since the 1940s at least. It's not a mystery, but like anything in aerospace, as the saying goes, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect.