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That rocket appears to have crashed into an open plain. It was a village?

by mrcwinn 5mo ago

866-RON-0-FEZ 5mo ago
I'm referring to a different Chinese launch failure in 1996. There is some VHS footage on YouTube surreptitiously shot by Americans on-site supporting the payload which became a guerrilla documentary. The village was annihilated but the official number from the CCP was 6 dead. 6.
- audunw 5mo ago
  It’s not the only time the CCP has reported an unbelievably low number of casualties in a large catastrophe. Seems like the number of dead is always around 6-7 (sorry) no matter how big the incident is. Like the flooding of that tunnel a few years ago where the authorities tried to hide how many flowers were put up by the tunnel
  - ceejayoz 5mo ago
    Or on a larger scale, their publicly disclosed COVID deaths.
    - _kb 5mo ago
      You mean like this https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aef5697 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aef5697, or this https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8354557/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8354557/.
      - ceejayoz 5mo ago
        Yes, but at a significantly higher level of magnitude. Their official count is 122,398; the US reported 1,238,123. Both are undercounts, but China's is probably much more of an undercount.
arjie 5mo ago
Not this one. An old one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelsat_708 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelsat_708 The Chinese government say very few were killed. But personally, my position is that the guys who routinely publish their embarrassing-seeming failures are quite believable (the US publishes that their planes fall off their carriers) and those who say they're perfect are probably lying. So I don't believe their numbers.
haunter 5mo ago
1996 The village is pretty much gone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTFgZ9zl74 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTFgZ9zl74
- wongarsu 5mo ago
  Wow, that certainly gives context to why modern range safety is so strict about automatically or manually blowing the rocket up once it deviates too far from the planned path

That rocket appears to have crashed into an open plain. It was a village?

by mrcwinn 5mo ago

That rocket appears to have crashed into an open plain. It was a village?

I'm referring to a different Chinese launch failure in 1996. There is some VHS footage on YouTube surreptitiously shot by Americans on-site supporting the payload which became a guerrilla documentary. The village was annihilated but the official number from the CCP was 6 dead. 6.

audunw 5mo ago
It’s not the only time the CCP has reported an unbelievably low number of casualties in a large catastrophe. Seems like the number of dead is always around 6-7 (sorry) no matter how big the incident is. Like the flooding of that tunnel a few years ago where the authorities tried to hide how many flowers were put up by the tunnel
- ceejayoz 5mo ago
  Or on a larger scale, their publicly disclosed COVID deaths.
  - _kb 5mo ago
    You mean like this https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aef5697 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aef5697, or this https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8354557/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8354557/.
    - ceejayoz 5mo ago
      Yes, but at a significantly higher level of magnitude. Their official count is 122,398; the US reported 1,238,123. Both are undercounts, but China's is probably much more of an undercount.

arjie 5mo ago

Not this one. An old one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelsat_708 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelsat_708 The Chinese government say very few were killed. But personally, my position is that the guys who routinely publish their embarrassing-seeming failures are quite believable (the US publishes that their planes fall off their carriers) and those who say they're perfect are probably lying. So I don't believe their numbers.

haunter 5mo ago

1996 The village is pretty much gone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTFgZ9zl74 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTFgZ9zl74

wongarsu 5mo ago
Wow, that certainly gives context to why modern range safety is so strict about automatically or manually blowing the rocket up once it deviates too far from the planned path