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> The problem here was that they didn't announce to the host that they are doing a test of their in-development equipment. I might be okay forgiving skirting t

> The problem here was that they didn't announce to the host that they are doing a test of their in-development equipment. I might be okay forgiving skirting the disclosure rules BUT only if they tried to be model tenants and, if there was any damage, took steps to proactively make things right. If you're breaking the rules, even if there was no damage, you should definitely be cleaning up and putting things back in place.

rapidaneurism 5mo ago
But that like costs money and/or time.
RobotToaster 5mo ago
This was my thought. I can understand not wanting to go to the hassle of trying to explain that you're testing an experimental prototype robot to a confused Airbnb owner. What I find inexcusable is not owning up to the damage and paying to fix it when your prototype goes on a rampage of destruction. Moving fast and breaking things is fine, as long as you fix the stuff you break...
- Rebuff5007 5mo ago
  > Moving fast and breaking things is fine, as long as you fix the stuff you break... What? No its not. Breaking things can cause harm that is not always "fixable", particularly if its not your thing to break.
  - RobotToaster 5mo ago
    Well, that statement kinda implied what was broken has to be fixable, at least I thought it did. And what is going to be impossible to fix or replace in a budget !hotel room?
    - Rebuff5007 5mo ago
      Even if it is fixable, there are costs involved for the fixing. A broken hotel lamp will sit in a landfill for all eternity. "Moving fast and breaking things" could be acceptable in cases where there is an ulterior objective whose potential value could be >> these costs, but in general it should be evaluated more carefully.
    - yw3410 5mo ago
      Fixing scratched hardwood furniture is an absolute pain.
  - msh 5mo ago
    In a rental unit you should not have things that can’t be replaced. People who rent it will break things, either by accident or purpose (there are always idiots around).
- Barbing 5mo ago
  > We are backed by Greenoaks, NFDG, Spark, Eclipse, Kleiner Perkins, Y Combinator, and many others who are too broke to pay for scratched furniture?
- MagicMoonlight 5mo ago
  You don't need to rent someone else's house to test your robot. These people all live in houses.

rapidaneurism 5mo ago

But that like costs money and/or time.

RobotToaster 5mo ago

This was my thought. I can understand not wanting to go to the hassle of trying to explain that you're testing an experimental prototype robot to a confused Airbnb owner. What I find inexcusable is not owning up to the damage and paying to fix it when your prototype goes on a rampage of destruction. Moving fast and breaking things is fine, as long as you fix the stuff you break...

Rebuff5007 5mo ago
> Moving fast and breaking things is fine, as long as you fix the stuff you break... What? No its not. Breaking things can cause harm that is not always "fixable", particularly if its not your thing to break.
- RobotToaster 5mo ago
  Well, that statement kinda implied what was broken has to be fixable, at least I thought it did. And what is going to be impossible to fix or replace in a budget !hotel room?
  - Rebuff5007 5mo ago
    Even if it is fixable, there are costs involved for the fixing. A broken hotel lamp will sit in a landfill for all eternity. "Moving fast and breaking things" could be acceptable in cases where there is an ulterior objective whose potential value could be >> these costs, but in general it should be evaluated more carefully.
  - yw3410 5mo ago
    Fixing scratched hardwood furniture is an absolute pain.
- msh 5mo ago
  In a rental unit you should not have things that can’t be replaced. People who rent it will break things, either by accident or purpose (there are always idiots around).
Barbing 5mo ago
> We are backed by Greenoaks, NFDG, Spark, Eclipse, Kleiner Perkins, Y Combinator, and many others who are too broke to pay for scratched furniture?
MagicMoonlight 5mo ago
You don't need to rent someone else's house to test your robot. These people all live in houses.