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Which, if any of the exploits require anything that isn't on-screen (USB or other HID, key combination), requires a reboot, or anything done before Windows has

by xethos 4mo ago

Which, if any of the exploits require anything that isn't on-screen (USB or other HID, key combination), requires a reboot, or anything done before Windows has fully booted, means one must have an external camera Doesn't sound like it for these exploits specifically (except Yellow Key), but I could be wrong, and again: that's just for these exploits specifically

thaumasiotes 4mo ago
> (USB or other HID, key combination) I don't think you'd need an external camera for that. What you're doing would be mentioned in the accompanying report. I do agree with you about the boot process, though.
- mook 4mo ago
  I believe Hyper-V supports emulating TPM these days, so doing things to a VM and recording the desktop with the VM window _may_ work. In this case though it'd look very boring because you couldn't tell from the recording that anything happened.
- xethos 4mo ago
  Personally I'd think Microsoft would be cool with following the report instead of demanding video evidence in the first place, but silly me thinking the trillion dollar multi-national would be reasonable
no-name-here 4mo ago
>>> flow chart tech support with a "buy a webcam" cherry on top >> I feel safe in saying that they don't want a video of you at your keyboard typing stuff. An exploit video is a recording of your screen, not of you. > if any of the exploits require anything that isn't on-screen (USB or other HID, key combination), requires a reboot, or anything done before Windows has fully booted, means one must have an external camera That still wouldn't mean "buy a webcam" - if someone has had a mobile phone (smartphone or dumbphone) from recent decades, it likely had a camera included.
tosti 4mo ago
I've used cheap HDMI to USB adapters for that in the past. Worked fine albeit somewhat low res. (Still much better than a camera pointed at a screen.)

by xethos 4mo ago

thaumasiotes 4mo ago

> (USB or other HID, key combination) I don't think you'd need an external camera for that. What you're doing would be mentioned in the accompanying report. I do agree with you about the boot process, though.

mook 4mo ago
I believe Hyper-V supports emulating TPM these days, so doing things to a VM and recording the desktop with the VM window _may_ work. In this case though it'd look very boring because you couldn't tell from the recording that anything happened.
xethos 4mo ago
Personally I'd think Microsoft would be cool with following the report instead of demanding video evidence in the first place, but silly me thinking the trillion dollar multi-national would be reasonable

no-name-here 4mo ago

>>> flow chart tech support with a "buy a webcam" cherry on top >> I feel safe in saying that they don't want a video of you at your keyboard typing stuff. An exploit video is a recording of your screen, not of you. > if any of the exploits require anything that isn't on-screen (USB or other HID, key combination), requires a reboot, or anything done before Windows has fully booted, means one must have an external camera That still wouldn't mean "buy a webcam" - if someone has had a mobile phone (smartphone or dumbphone) from recent decades, it likely had a camera included.

tosti 4mo ago

I've used cheap HDMI to USB adapters for that in the past. Worked fine albeit somewhat low res. (Still much better than a camera pointed at a screen.)