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"As far as you can tell?" Again, it's completely disingenous to compare random internet trolls on Reddit/Facebook/Youtube/etc to the office of the President.

by k_roy 4mo ago

"As far as you can tell?" Again, it's completely disingenous to compare random internet trolls on Reddit/Facebook/Youtube/etc to the office of the President. I invite you to actually find a case of a politician, a news source, or someone else who isn't one of these folks on the left, that celebrated the assassination attempts, or the murders of Kirk of the UHC CEO. Mark Hammil? Okay? The dude from Tenacious D? Okay. Other than that, new sources, politicians, the decent left? All universally condemned it. Compare that to the attack of on Paul Pelosi, the murders of the Minnosota representive, her husband, and their dog, murders of Alex Pretti and Renee Good. EVERYBODY on the right. From the previous people mentioned whose opinions should be ignored, to almost every Conservative news outlet, to many politicians including the office of the President. None of them condemned it, instead focused on why they "deserved it". Multiple academic sources, using real and verified datasets, which I'm sure you just see and "owned by the liberals", like START (Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism) at the University of Maryland, ADL, have demonstrated the right is overwhelming far more comfortable with violence and violent rhetoric. Look at what you are doing and what EVERY response of yours is. Saying "getting fascists in the door" is not rhetoric, when there are so many things happening in our government and country that in any other decade would be objectively fascist. You again, turned this entirely into a US vs THEM. Ignoring the fact that what this link was about is wrong, and somehow continuing defending the rhetoric because in your mind "the other side is doing it too"

RickJWagner 4mo ago
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- k_roy 4mo ago
  Wow, I'm sorry you just don't see it. All you've demonstrated is that the left holds people accountable. But I'm sorry that you can't see how: * calling someone a "divisive figure" and "who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words which lead to hateful actions."' Is not even close to the evil words you are trying to attribute it to. That is not celebrating Kirk's death or even trying to excuse it. But again, he was fired and held accountable. Unlike the PRESIDENT who calls for genocide, people he doesn't like to be executed as traitors. ALMOST DAILY. Do you not see the blatant irony of trying to claim that Jimmy Kimmell was wrong for trying to blame the murder on someone on the right? Like, for real???? Why does Charlie Kirk need honors on the national level? He was a mouthpiece for opinions and frankly before his murder, I knew nothing about him except he started a feud with Swifties. Are you just as upset that Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark were murdered by a verified right-wing nutjob? And instead of honors for a woman and her husband that were targeted because of her service to her State and this Country, the White House and everyone else on the right is still saying she somehow deserved it because of "reasons" Even just look at January 6: https://www.whitehouse.gov/j6 https://www.whitehouse.gov/j6 It's either: * Biden's FBI in the crowd inciting violence (Biden didn't have an FBI) * Antifa, which I still don't know who to report to for my badge * Peaceful patriots who were unfair targets and somehow deserve a piece of 1.776 billion. It can't really be all three? I'm done. This was not about blame, but unsurprisingly that just where you took it. When someone is so far buried within the proproganda that demonstrates brainwashing to any reasonable person, no amount of words will change them.
- muwtyhg 4mo ago
  > At the national level, 58 Democrats voted against a resolution to posthumously honor Kirk. Why does being assassinated mean they should be posthumously honored? He farmed clips from uneducated impromptu college debaters to push a narrative that included "some gun deaths are worth it" and that women and minorities are often selected only for DEI reasons and you should worry if they are your doctor or pilot. He was not a nice or honorable person, regardless of the situation in which he was killed. I don't endorse or support the assassination of Kirk (I assume you will jump to that conclusion based on how you read Kimmel and Dowd's comments), but we have to be real... he wasn't honorable, and the "free speech" and "encouraging debate" aspect of his career was mostly for YouTube views and political gain, not an actual conversation to improve mutual understanding.

by k_roy 4mo ago

RickJWagner 4mo ago

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k_roy 4mo ago
Wow, I'm sorry you just don't see it. All you've demonstrated is that the left holds people accountable. But I'm sorry that you can't see how: * calling someone a "divisive figure" and "who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words which lead to hateful actions."' Is not even close to the evil words you are trying to attribute it to. That is not celebrating Kirk's death or even trying to excuse it. But again, he was fired and held accountable. Unlike the PRESIDENT who calls for genocide, people he doesn't like to be executed as traitors. ALMOST DAILY. Do you not see the blatant irony of trying to claim that Jimmy Kimmell was wrong for trying to blame the murder on someone on the right? Like, for real???? Why does Charlie Kirk need honors on the national level? He was a mouthpiece for opinions and frankly before his murder, I knew nothing about him except he started a feud with Swifties. Are you just as upset that Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark were murdered by a verified right-wing nutjob? And instead of honors for a woman and her husband that were targeted because of her service to her State and this Country, the White House and everyone else on the right is still saying she somehow deserved it because of "reasons" Even just look at January 6: https://www.whitehouse.gov/j6 https://www.whitehouse.gov/j6 It's either: * Biden's FBI in the crowd inciting violence (Biden didn't have an FBI) * Antifa, which I still don't know who to report to for my badge * Peaceful patriots who were unfair targets and somehow deserve a piece of 1.776 billion. It can't really be all three? I'm done. This was not about blame, but unsurprisingly that just where you took it. When someone is so far buried within the proproganda that demonstrates brainwashing to any reasonable person, no amount of words will change them.
muwtyhg 4mo ago
> At the national level, 58 Democrats voted against a resolution to posthumously honor Kirk. Why does being assassinated mean they should be posthumously honored? He farmed clips from uneducated impromptu college debaters to push a narrative that included "some gun deaths are worth it" and that women and minorities are often selected only for DEI reasons and you should worry if they are your doctor or pilot. He was not a nice or honorable person, regardless of the situation in which he was killed. I don't endorse or support the assassination of Kirk (I assume you will jump to that conclusion based on how you read Kimmel and Dowd's comments), but we have to be real... he wasn't honorable, and the "free speech" and "encouraging debate" aspect of his career was mostly for YouTube views and political gain, not an actual conversation to improve mutual understanding.