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The ridesharing apps are the most annoying about this. Yes I want to be notified when my uber driver is almost here to pick me up. No, I don't want a notificati

The ridesharing apps are the most annoying about this. Yes I want to be notified when my uber driver is almost here to pick me up. No, I don't want a notification about yet another sale.

wavemode 4mo ago
It baffles me that they do this. I have to disable push notifications from Lyft entirely, so instead they send me ride updates as text messages, which surely must cost them way more money. Why not just introduce a "ride updates only" push notification category and stop this madness?
- monkpit 4mo ago
  It needs to be enforced by the OS or by law. Like how you get transactional emails without getting marketing spam. I want the same for notifications.
  - inetknght 4mo ago
    > It needs to be enforced by the OS or by law. Like how you get transactional emails without getting marketing spam. What glorious universe do you live in where email is respected enough to have transactions separate from marketing, and that this is not only required by law but also enforced?
    - monkpit 4mo ago
      Not sure about your experience, I’ve almost never encountered a marketing email that didn’t have an unsubscribe link, as is mandated by law in some countries. So I’m not really sure what you’re talking about. In the past, yeah. But today? Never.
      - inetknght 4mo ago
        > I’ve almost never encountered a marketing email that didn’t have an unsubscribe link Have you encountered a "marketing email" that you didn't sign up for? That's called phishing. Have you clicked on links in phishing emails? That's called getting pwned.
        monkpit 4mo ago
        That’s also not relevant to the topic, which was transactional vs marketing app notifications, and making a correlation to email.
        inetknght 4mo ago
        It's certainly relevant to the topic: notifications, and a claim of legal requirements. Legal requirements are useless without enforcement.
    - rcxdude 4mo ago
      There's a pretty healthy regulatory environment around it, though I have noticed a resurgence of opt-out marketing communications on signup forms, which is unwelcome (I don't know if some legal decision changed, but it seemed like for a while this was not allowed, and maybe something has made companies think that it is again). (I decided to look it up, here's the UK rules: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/direct-marketing-and-privacy-and-electronic-communications/guide-to-pecr/electronic-and-telephone-marketing/electronic-mail-marketing/ https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/direct-marketing-and-pr... . It looks like it is allowed to be opt-out if you buy something from them, which I do dislike, but there are rules and the ICO does have teeth)
vkou 4mo ago
Have you looked at the Uber app recently? 90% of it is promotionshit. I am just looking for a fucking taxi. Are there any VCs looking to give away a few billion dollars to disrupt the ossified, wasteful, poor customer experience taxi app market?
- iamacyborg 4mo ago
  > Are there any VCs looking to give away a few billion dollars to disrupt the ossified, wasteful, poor customer experience taxi app market? Waymo are rolling out, slowly. No one'll be in a real position to compete against them.

The ridesharing apps are the most annoying about this. Yes I want to be notified when my uber driver is almost here to pick me up. No, I don't want a notification about yet another sale.

wavemode 4mo ago

It baffles me that they do this. I have to disable push notifications from Lyft entirely, so instead they send me ride updates as text messages, which surely must cost them way more money. Why not just introduce a "ride updates only" push notification category and stop this madness?

monkpit 4mo ago
It needs to be enforced by the OS or by law. Like how you get transactional emails without getting marketing spam. I want the same for notifications.
- inetknght 4mo ago
  > It needs to be enforced by the OS or by law. Like how you get transactional emails without getting marketing spam. What glorious universe do you live in where email is respected enough to have transactions separate from marketing, and that this is not only required by law but also enforced?
  - monkpit 4mo ago
    Not sure about your experience, I’ve almost never encountered a marketing email that didn’t have an unsubscribe link, as is mandated by law in some countries. So I’m not really sure what you’re talking about. In the past, yeah. But today? Never.
    - inetknght 4mo ago
      > I’ve almost never encountered a marketing email that didn’t have an unsubscribe link Have you encountered a "marketing email" that you didn't sign up for? That's called phishing. Have you clicked on links in phishing emails? That's called getting pwned.
      - monkpit 4mo ago
        That’s also not relevant to the topic, which was transactional vs marketing app notifications, and making a correlation to email.
        inetknght 4mo ago
        It's certainly relevant to the topic: notifications, and a claim of legal requirements. Legal requirements are useless without enforcement.
  - rcxdude 4mo ago
    There's a pretty healthy regulatory environment around it, though I have noticed a resurgence of opt-out marketing communications on signup forms, which is unwelcome (I don't know if some legal decision changed, but it seemed like for a while this was not allowed, and maybe something has made companies think that it is again). (I decided to look it up, here's the UK rules: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/direct-marketing-and-privacy-and-electronic-communications/guide-to-pecr/electronic-and-telephone-marketing/electronic-mail-marketing/ https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/direct-marketing-and-pr... . It looks like it is allowed to be opt-out if you buy something from them, which I do dislike, but there are rules and the ICO does have teeth)

vkou 4mo ago

Have you looked at the Uber app recently? 90% of it is promotionshit. I am just looking for a fucking taxi. Are there any VCs looking to give away a few billion dollars to disrupt the ossified, wasteful, poor customer experience taxi app market?

iamacyborg 4mo ago
> Are there any VCs looking to give away a few billion dollars to disrupt the ossified, wasteful, poor customer experience taxi app market? Waymo are rolling out, slowly. No one'll be in a real position to compete against them.