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I agree with Mo [1] and doubt AGI will ever be a real thing. People will probably market something as "AGI" just like people market big-data-LLM chat bots as

by Bender 5mo ago

I agree with Mo [1] and doubt AGI will ever be a real thing. People will probably market something as "AGI" just like people market big-data-LLM chat bots as "AI". Unlike Mr. Deutsch I also believe animals are alive and can think. My cat is thinking right now. There will be plumber robots though. They will break pipes and flood houses for a few iterations. Move fast and break the pipes. That might be a fun poll, how many here would allow a first generation plumber robot in their home and what might you hide from its view? [Edit] Added a poll [2] [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VucjurQUHO8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VucjurQUHO8 [video][6 mins][language] [2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48302523 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48302523

atleastoptimal 5mo ago
SO you believe that there will always be things humans can do that AI system or robots can't? What makes you so sure, what is the "critical gap" that no neural net could pass that only a human brain can?
- Bender 5mo ago
  SO you believe that there will always be things humans can do that AI system or robots can't? What makes you so sure, what is the "critical gap" that no neural net could pass that only a human brain can? I did not say that. I suggested that the first few generations of robots will have tickets updated with "It was not supposed to do that..." and tens of thousands of dollars of damages and real plumbers testifying in court. As for AI it's just a chat bot using a language model and cool math, dont get me wrong, very cool predictive statistical math and big data shoved up it's back side. It can barely calculate basic math right now and I would not even trust that. [1] Amazon let AI run its operations and caused spectacular outages. [2] Trust it if you want to. I've never gotten a correct straight answer out of it though in fairness I do not throw softballs. [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48297336 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48297336 [2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47323017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47323017

by Bender 5mo ago

atleastoptimal 5mo ago

SO you believe that there will always be things humans can do that AI system or robots can't? What makes you so sure, what is the "critical gap" that no neural net could pass that only a human brain can?

Bender 5mo ago
SO you believe that there will always be things humans can do that AI system or robots can't? What makes you so sure, what is the "critical gap" that no neural net could pass that only a human brain can? I did not say that. I suggested that the first few generations of robots will have tickets updated with "It was not supposed to do that..." and tens of thousands of dollars of damages and real plumbers testifying in court. As for AI it's just a chat bot using a language model and cool math, dont get me wrong, very cool predictive statistical math and big data shoved up it's back side. It can barely calculate basic math right now and I would not even trust that. [1] Amazon let AI run its operations and caused spectacular outages. [2] Trust it if you want to. I've never gotten a correct straight answer out of it though in fairness I do not throw softballs. [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48297336 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48297336 [2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47323017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47323017