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That weakness is a strength. Everyone you meet on a mesh is a real breathing nerd, who due to proximity has a lot in common with you. They are not trying to in

That weakness is a strength. Everyone you meet on a mesh is a real breathing nerd, who due to proximity has a lot in common with you. They are not trying to influence you or sell you anything How many places like that are left?

Groxx 4mo ago
It's well suited for that at the moment, yeah - if that's what you're hoping to find by getting into it, it's pretty cheap and now's a great time.
mschuster91 4mo ago
> Everyone you meet on a mesh is a real breathing nerd, who due to proximity has a lot in common with you. They are not trying to influence you or sell you anything I wish... the Hamburg Meshcore mesh has some dumbass spammer spamming far-right youtube videos in the public channel for example. And from what I hear, Meshtastic also has issues with this kind of idiots.
- Schiendelman 4mo ago
  All unmoderated spaces have this problem. That's why the right wing grew so much on gaming forums, because they were extremely unmoderated. A great video on the topic from a few years ago (How to Radicalize a Normie): https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g
- bityard 4mo ago
  Start spamming far-left YouTube videos to the public channel at the same time, according to the general theory of nutball political physics the two should cancel each other out
  - mschuster91 4mo ago
    The problem is that takes up valuable airtime. The denser the mesh the more airtime is wasted on the junk.
    - m4rtink 4mo ago
      In MeshCore a concept of regions has been recently introduced - you can scope channels and messages to a specific geographic region (which is set on a repeater) and it will not propagate outside of the given region. That way local channels don't need to flood the whole mesh, same as with trying to send a message to someone or reach the management interface of a repeater you know is in a given area.
      - mschuster91 4mo ago
        Oh I am aware of that feature. The problem is, all repeater administrators in a region need to cooperate - and a lot of repeaters are abandoned. And it doesn't help at all if the troll is aware of regions.
        m4rtink 4mo ago
        In practice at this quite early stage of MeshCore development I would say that repeater need some regular maintenance (like the recent firmware update needed 1b -> 2b) so if they are abandoned, they will eventually fall out of the network. As for trolls and regions - based on how you setup the regions a troll might need to physically travel to cause wider issues, as their traffic might no longer propagate through the whole mesh.
    - bityard 4mo ago
      It was a joke...
- hylaride 4mo ago
  I run a few Meshcore nodes in Toronto - mostly as a nerd hobby. In some ways it has the feel of the 1990s internet and in some ways it's the same feel as ham radio . It has smart nerds, but also some unhinged people who are desperate to force people to hear them. Then there are the trolls...
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Groxx 4mo ago

It's well suited for that at the moment, yeah - if that's what you're hoping to find by getting into it, it's pretty cheap and now's a great time.

mschuster91 4mo ago

> Everyone you meet on a mesh is a real breathing nerd, who due to proximity has a lot in common with you. They are not trying to influence you or sell you anything I wish... the Hamburg Meshcore mesh has some dumbass spammer spamming far-right youtube videos in the public channel for example. And from what I hear, Meshtastic also has issues with this kind of idiots.

Schiendelman 4mo ago
All unmoderated spaces have this problem. That's why the right wing grew so much on gaming forums, because they were extremely unmoderated. A great video on the topic from a few years ago (How to Radicalize a Normie): https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g
bityard 4mo ago
Start spamming far-left YouTube videos to the public channel at the same time, according to the general theory of nutball political physics the two should cancel each other out
- mschuster91 4mo ago
  The problem is that takes up valuable airtime. The denser the mesh the more airtime is wasted on the junk.
  - m4rtink 4mo ago
    In MeshCore a concept of regions has been recently introduced - you can scope channels and messages to a specific geographic region (which is set on a repeater) and it will not propagate outside of the given region. That way local channels don't need to flood the whole mesh, same as with trying to send a message to someone or reach the management interface of a repeater you know is in a given area.
    - mschuster91 4mo ago
      Oh I am aware of that feature. The problem is, all repeater administrators in a region need to cooperate - and a lot of repeaters are abandoned. And it doesn't help at all if the troll is aware of regions.
      - m4rtink 4mo ago
        In practice at this quite early stage of MeshCore development I would say that repeater need some regular maintenance (like the recent firmware update needed 1b -> 2b) so if they are abandoned, they will eventually fall out of the network. As for trolls and regions - based on how you setup the regions a troll might need to physically travel to cause wider issues, as their traffic might no longer propagate through the whole mesh.
  - bityard 4mo ago
    It was a joke...
hylaride 4mo ago
I run a few Meshcore nodes in Toronto - mostly as a nerd hobby. In some ways it has the feel of the 1990s internet and in some ways it's the same feel as ham radio . It has smart nerds, but also some unhinged people who are desperate to force people to hear them. Then there are the trolls...

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