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> (read: spam) is it unironically incomprehensible to you that the owner of the device should in the one who gets to decide what is and isn't spam? it's not em

> (read: spam) is it unironically incomprehensible to you that the owner of the device should in the one who gets to decide what is and isn't spam? it's not email where you can get bombarded with shit from any random server - you can mute or uninstall an app.

whstl 5mo ago
It should but apps don't let us decide. An intermediate seems to be trying to fix it. Is it ideal? No. But it's the spammers who are to blame.
- b65e8bee43c2ed0 5mo ago
  like I said, you decide by muting or removing the offending app.
  - whstl 5mo ago
    Fine, but that’s was clearly not enough to stop the spam, nor it was enough to satisfy everyone. There are some apps I can’t afford to mute or uninstall, such as phone, transportation, communication and work. I wish I could, but I currently can’t, I’m not privileged enough. “Punishment by Apple” in this instance is somehow the only response anyone had to misbehaving companies.
- TheNewsIsHere 5mo ago
  You know, I would love a feature that lets me mark push notifications as spam, and optionally send them to Apple. The last part is important for a variety of reasons, one of which is that notifications can be end to end encrypted. Spam filter push notifications. Ideally enough spam reports for Uber Eat’s constant marketing abuse and they lose APNs access for the Bundle ID associated with the spam reports. For example.
  - nickf 5mo ago
    You’re right of course, but Apple won’t do it - they’re happily running a two-tier system where Uber, eBay, Doordash can force spam notifications on you with impunity. All my settings for marketing are off - eBay still sends me notifications about coupons (and additionally there’s no way to actually contact them to complain, of course). Doordash won’t let me get delivery notifications without marketing notifications. Apple could fully enforce their policies and fix this in a heartbeat, but they won’t.

whstl 5mo ago

It should but apps don't let us decide. An intermediate seems to be trying to fix it. Is it ideal? No. But it's the spammers who are to blame.

b65e8bee43c2ed0 5mo ago
like I said, you decide by muting or removing the offending app.
- whstl 5mo ago
  Fine, but that’s was clearly not enough to stop the spam, nor it was enough to satisfy everyone. There are some apps I can’t afford to mute or uninstall, such as phone, transportation, communication and work. I wish I could, but I currently can’t, I’m not privileged enough. “Punishment by Apple” in this instance is somehow the only response anyone had to misbehaving companies.
TheNewsIsHere 5mo ago
You know, I would love a feature that lets me mark push notifications as spam, and optionally send them to Apple. The last part is important for a variety of reasons, one of which is that notifications can be end to end encrypted. Spam filter push notifications. Ideally enough spam reports for Uber Eat’s constant marketing abuse and they lose APNs access for the Bundle ID associated with the spam reports. For example.
- nickf 5mo ago
  You’re right of course, but Apple won’t do it - they’re happily running a two-tier system where Uber, eBay, Doordash can force spam notifications on you with impunity. All my settings for marketing are off - eBay still sends me notifications about coupons (and additionally there’s no way to actually contact them to complain, of course). Doordash won’t let me get delivery notifications without marketing notifications. Apple could fully enforce their policies and fix this in a heartbeat, but they won’t.