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> Why let a cooking website get visitors and ad revenue when they are free to take the content and show it as their own? I think this is a step beyond that - w

by eithed 4mo ago

> Why let a cooking website get visitors and ad revenue when they are free to take the content and show it as their own? I think this is a step beyond that - why should people be creating cooking websites when you can ask LLM how to cook given thing, while indeed, serving their own ads. It's the continuation of "we own content other people produce" policy

alberto467 4mo ago
You can also tell the LLM exactly what you have in the fridge or what allergies you have and get customized recipes. It’s just a better experience, 2026 is rough for a recipe site.
- leereeves 4mo ago
  > You can also tell the LLM exactly what you have in the fridge or what allergies you have and get customized recipes. Can you really though? Are the results delicious? I've never tried that.
  - hilariously 4mo ago
    It's worse than you think, many recipe sites do not taste test their stuff at all, and often have very stupid instructions. That being said, an LLM can give creative ideas, mix and match components, but you should not trust the details at all.
    - ben_w 4mo ago
      Case in point, when "minced meat" and "mincemeat" were mixed up: https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/09/american-website-includes-actual-beef-mince-pie-recipe-described-abomination-11584126/ https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/09/american-website-includes-act...
      - shakow 4mo ago
        Damn, TIL. Now “Operation Mincemeat” seems less macabre.
  - alberto467 4mo ago
    It is pretty good yeah. I usually ask what traditional recipes (with some time/difficulty limits depending on time availability) might fit with the ingredients i have and let it suggest substitutions. I wouldn't just ask it to make me a "novel and interesting recipe" giving it a bunch of weird ingredients that don't fit together. It would probably try its best but garbage in garbage out also work for food! At that point i ask it what should i get from the shop to make a recipe with x ingredient that i have in the fridge and i want to finish. It's also pretty good with meal planning if you do that, it can estimate portions with calories breakdowns etc...
- eithed 4mo ago
  This video tells me otherwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDQds7VZkfg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDQds7VZkfg ( Cold Ones - We Drank AI's Horrible Cocktail Ideas). This is a tongue in cheek response though, as LLMs improved significantly since then.
- justsomehnguy 4mo ago
  Is this mushroom edible.jpg
- xigoi 4mo ago
  Would you trust the tool that recommended putting glue on pizza to give you a good recipe?
  - lpapez 4mo ago
    If the user puts glue on their pizza because a computer said so, that's a human problem. The computer generated recipes can be useful as inspiration, but of course common sense is required.
    - thwarted 4mo ago
      This "common sense" you refer to, is it the same common sense Babbage was subject to? "On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage
      - alberto467 4mo ago
        If you freely follow a recipe telling you to put glue on your food, I also don't trust you cooking anything and I definitively don't trust you coming up with your own recipes.
  - coryrc 4mo ago
    I have/make rice starch glue. Can you put it on food? How are you supposed to know whether it's food safe? Okay, so you don't trust LLM, so you go to a website instead. And... LLM-generated pages are SEO'd to get the top links. So you can't trust any website now (shoot, so much nonsense even before LLM, just more obvious to some of us). So basically everything on a computer is untrustworthy, directly from an LLM or not, unless you got yourself a copy of Encarta '97. So you pick up a book at the local library. Librarians picked some books to order in subject matters they aren't expert in. How do you know those are accurate and safe? If the book says to use rice starch glue, how do you know the author didn't just copy that from an LLM? Or make it up? Trust is fading entirely.
- hansmayer 4mo ago
  > You can also tell the LLM exactly what You can - but it's not advisable, not in the least.
rolph 4mo ago
recall the pizza sauce glue trick, to stop cheese from sliding off. there are other such goodies like mashed potatoes with broken lightbulb gravy, or fiberglass omelette, enjoyed by beldar conehead. i wouldnt trust an AI for any recipe that i dont have personal experience with. the safety rails are not very strong yet.
- eithed 4mo ago
  I agree and this response was following OPs example. But the point still stands - the goal is to outsource, in a weird way, the results being served = Google as such wouldn't need to pay for content. Now, if accuracy of such sources doesn't matter (or is good enough) for casual user...
- redsocksfan45 4mo ago
  There are virtually no combinations of food which are toxic, you can mix any food with any food and, while it might not be good, it will still be food. (The only exception I know of is alcohol and mushrooms containing coprine, e.g. inky caps) Point is, unless you're stupid enough to add glue or broken glass to your meal just because a recipe told you to, it's perfectly safe. More than just safe, LLM recipes these days are utterly boring in their normalacy, and, unlike cookbook recipes, can dynamically adapt to what you actually have in your pantry.
  - onemoresoop 4mo ago
    What really sucks is that Google pushed actual content creators out of the way in the first place. That is horrible. I think they should be challenged on this. Food bloggers, recipe writers, and creators have helped shape a huge amount of food culture, and they deserve to be protected rather than erased. If this kind of theft continues from the AI industry Im not sure what type of culture is is going to be left or what it is going to replace it to. I hope humanity is going to find a creative way around it, but I’m also aware how easy to manipulated the masses are.
    - bflesch 4mo ago
watwut 4mo ago
Google already killed cooking websites - when it refused to show them in search unless they added long slop content to it. And it killed blogosphere when it decided blogs wont be found if they just contain content without deliberate SEO play. And I think the rest of it will end the same way. People will be significantly less eager to do all that free work when no one will be able to find it.

by eithed 4mo ago

alberto467 4mo ago

You can also tell the LLM exactly what you have in the fridge or what allergies you have and get customized recipes. It’s just a better experience, 2026 is rough for a recipe site.

leereeves 4mo ago
> You can also tell the LLM exactly what you have in the fridge or what allergies you have and get customized recipes. Can you really though? Are the results delicious? I've never tried that.
- hilariously 4mo ago
  It's worse than you think, many recipe sites do not taste test their stuff at all, and often have very stupid instructions. That being said, an LLM can give creative ideas, mix and match components, but you should not trust the details at all.
  - ben_w 4mo ago
    Case in point, when "minced meat" and "mincemeat" were mixed up: https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/09/american-website-includes-actual-beef-mince-pie-recipe-described-abomination-11584126/ https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/09/american-website-includes-act...
    - shakow 4mo ago
      Damn, TIL. Now “Operation Mincemeat” seems less macabre.
- alberto467 4mo ago
  It is pretty good yeah. I usually ask what traditional recipes (with some time/difficulty limits depending on time availability) might fit with the ingredients i have and let it suggest substitutions. I wouldn't just ask it to make me a "novel and interesting recipe" giving it a bunch of weird ingredients that don't fit together. It would probably try its best but garbage in garbage out also work for food! At that point i ask it what should i get from the shop to make a recipe with x ingredient that i have in the fridge and i want to finish. It's also pretty good with meal planning if you do that, it can estimate portions with calories breakdowns etc...
eithed 4mo ago
This video tells me otherwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDQds7VZkfg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDQds7VZkfg ( Cold Ones - We Drank AI's Horrible Cocktail Ideas). This is a tongue in cheek response though, as LLMs improved significantly since then.
justsomehnguy 4mo ago
Is this mushroom edible.jpg
xigoi 4mo ago
Would you trust the tool that recommended putting glue on pizza to give you a good recipe?
- lpapez 4mo ago
  If the user puts glue on their pizza because a computer said so, that's a human problem. The computer generated recipes can be useful as inspiration, but of course common sense is required.
  - thwarted 4mo ago
    This "common sense" you refer to, is it the same common sense Babbage was subject to? "On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage
    - alberto467 4mo ago
      If you freely follow a recipe telling you to put glue on your food, I also don't trust you cooking anything and I definitively don't trust you coming up with your own recipes.
- coryrc 4mo ago
  I have/make rice starch glue. Can you put it on food? How are you supposed to know whether it's food safe? Okay, so you don't trust LLM, so you go to a website instead. And... LLM-generated pages are SEO'd to get the top links. So you can't trust any website now (shoot, so much nonsense even before LLM, just more obvious to some of us). So basically everything on a computer is untrustworthy, directly from an LLM or not, unless you got yourself a copy of Encarta '97. So you pick up a book at the local library. Librarians picked some books to order in subject matters they aren't expert in. How do you know those are accurate and safe? If the book says to use rice starch glue, how do you know the author didn't just copy that from an LLM? Or make it up? Trust is fading entirely.
hansmayer 4mo ago
> You can also tell the LLM exactly what You can - but it's not advisable, not in the least.

rolph 4mo ago

recall the pizza sauce glue trick, to stop cheese from sliding off. there are other such goodies like mashed potatoes with broken lightbulb gravy, or fiberglass omelette, enjoyed by beldar conehead. i wouldnt trust an AI for any recipe that i dont have personal experience with. the safety rails are not very strong yet.

eithed 4mo ago
I agree and this response was following OPs example. But the point still stands - the goal is to outsource, in a weird way, the results being served = Google as such wouldn't need to pay for content. Now, if accuracy of such sources doesn't matter (or is good enough) for casual user...
redsocksfan45 4mo ago
There are virtually no combinations of food which are toxic, you can mix any food with any food and, while it might not be good, it will still be food. (The only exception I know of is alcohol and mushrooms containing coprine, e.g. inky caps) Point is, unless you're stupid enough to add glue or broken glass to your meal just because a recipe told you to, it's perfectly safe. More than just safe, LLM recipes these days are utterly boring in their normalacy, and, unlike cookbook recipes, can dynamically adapt to what you actually have in your pantry.
- onemoresoop 4mo ago
  What really sucks is that Google pushed actual content creators out of the way in the first place. That is horrible. I think they should be challenged on this. Food bloggers, recipe writers, and creators have helped shape a huge amount of food culture, and they deserve to be protected rather than erased. If this kind of theft continues from the AI industry Im not sure what type of culture is is going to be left or what it is going to replace it to. I hope humanity is going to find a creative way around it, but I’m also aware how easy to manipulated the masses are.
  - bflesch 4mo ago

watwut 4mo ago

Google already killed cooking websites - when it refused to show them in search unless they added long slop content to it. And it killed blogosphere when it decided blogs wont be found if they just contain content without deliberate SEO play. And I think the rest of it will end the same way. People will be significantly less eager to do all that free work when no one will be able to find it.