I'm not certain. I heard this in a webinar around 2017-2018 I believe (conducted by the same guy [1] who turned me onto Wendell Berry in the first place). [1]

I'm not certain. I heard this in a webinar around 2017-2018 I believe (conducted by the same guy [1] who turned me onto Wendell Berry in the first place). [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxhuUMa6cjo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxhuUMa6cjo