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I just went through the same process over the last few months. I had a USW agg and ran out of ports so now I have the big dog 24-port version. Mainly wanted L3

I just went through the same process over the last few months. I had a USW agg and ran out of ports so now I have the big dog 24-port version. Mainly wanted L3 routing capability but it’s nice having more ports to lagg connections.

alexfoo 5mo ago
The limiting factor for me is that I'm renting so I can't put my own cabling in to the property. And with the new place there's no existing cabling, nor any conduits to run anything in, and chasing things into the walls/etc is going to be prohibited by the landlord or just too expensive if I'm only in this place for a year or two. The spools of bend insensitive fibre are pretty cheap and very discreet so I'll probably have a couple of those running along skirting boards/etc in order to connect disparate areas of the house. (The ONT is ~15m away from where the majority of the equipment will live, that's the main bit I have to bridge.)
- whalesalad 5mo ago
  I used to sneak cabling around the basement and pop it out of AC register vents when I was renting. I had one cable coming out the access panel to a bathtub which was conveniently in my office as I was next to the bathroom. This vid comes to mind when you said bend insensitive fiber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2FbzCyiNr4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2FbzCyiNr4
  - alexfoo 5mo ago
    Edwardian houses in the UK rarely have that level of access. No basement at all and I can't lift the carpets and floorboards to get to where I might be able to pass things through/around. No AC ducts. No coax to be able to use MoCA either. But, yes, that video is exactly the kind of thing I had in mind for the bend insensitive fibre. It all depends how I set things up (and I can't tell that until I've had more access to the property). The ONT and the rack with the USW-Aggregation switch are 10 yards apart, in terms of absolute distance, but probably 20 yards if you follow the walls/skirting-boards/etc. The FTTP is presented as 2.5GbE Ethernet (apparently) so I can either: a) put my Unifi Express 7 next to the ONT and then need a fibre run (something like https://uk.store.ui.com/uk/en/category/accessories-modules-fiber/collections/accessories-pro-direct-attach-cables/products/10-gbps-active-optical-cable?variant=uacc-aoc-sfp10-20m https://uk.store.ui.com/uk/en/category/accessories-modules-f...) from the SFP+ port on the Express 7 to the USW-Aggregation in the rack. However this will be sub-optimal in terms of Wifi and I'll probably need extra APs to cover all three floors and out into the back yard. b) put my Unifi Express 7 in the hallway in the middle of the house (which should give me full Wifi coverage with no extra APs). This would mean a short (2m) DAC to connect it to the USW-Aggregation nearby, and I can use a 20m long flat/flexible Cat-6 Ethernet cable to go between the ONT and the Unifi Express 7.
- simoncion 5mo ago
  > The spools of bend insensitive fibre are pretty cheap... For the benefit of other folks reading, I'll note that even regular, boring OM4 bends okay. I have mine running along the outside of preexisting molding and baseboards. My runs get down to a 1/4" bend radius in places and it seems to work just fine. Bend-insensitive fiber is definitely useful, but it may not be required for the run one is planning. Though, one thing that regular OM4 is not is discreet. That two-strand cabling in its aqua-colored jacket is quite distinctive.

alexfoo 5mo ago

The limiting factor for me is that I'm renting so I can't put my own cabling in to the property. And with the new place there's no existing cabling, nor any conduits to run anything in, and chasing things into the walls/etc is going to be prohibited by the landlord or just too expensive if I'm only in this place for a year or two. The spools of bend insensitive fibre are pretty cheap and very discreet so I'll probably have a couple of those running along skirting boards/etc in order to connect disparate areas of the house. (The ONT is ~15m away from where the majority of the equipment will live, that's the main bit I have to bridge.)

whalesalad 5mo ago
I used to sneak cabling around the basement and pop it out of AC register vents when I was renting. I had one cable coming out the access panel to a bathtub which was conveniently in my office as I was next to the bathroom. This vid comes to mind when you said bend insensitive fiber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2FbzCyiNr4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2FbzCyiNr4
- alexfoo 5mo ago
  Edwardian houses in the UK rarely have that level of access. No basement at all and I can't lift the carpets and floorboards to get to where I might be able to pass things through/around. No AC ducts. No coax to be able to use MoCA either. But, yes, that video is exactly the kind of thing I had in mind for the bend insensitive fibre. It all depends how I set things up (and I can't tell that until I've had more access to the property). The ONT and the rack with the USW-Aggregation switch are 10 yards apart, in terms of absolute distance, but probably 20 yards if you follow the walls/skirting-boards/etc. The FTTP is presented as 2.5GbE Ethernet (apparently) so I can either: a) put my Unifi Express 7 next to the ONT and then need a fibre run (something like https://uk.store.ui.com/uk/en/category/accessories-modules-fiber/collections/accessories-pro-direct-attach-cables/products/10-gbps-active-optical-cable?variant=uacc-aoc-sfp10-20m https://uk.store.ui.com/uk/en/category/accessories-modules-f...) from the SFP+ port on the Express 7 to the USW-Aggregation in the rack. However this will be sub-optimal in terms of Wifi and I'll probably need extra APs to cover all three floors and out into the back yard. b) put my Unifi Express 7 in the hallway in the middle of the house (which should give me full Wifi coverage with no extra APs). This would mean a short (2m) DAC to connect it to the USW-Aggregation nearby, and I can use a 20m long flat/flexible Cat-6 Ethernet cable to go between the ONT and the Unifi Express 7.
simoncion 5mo ago
> The spools of bend insensitive fibre are pretty cheap... For the benefit of other folks reading, I'll note that even regular, boring OM4 bends okay. I have mine running along the outside of preexisting molding and baseboards. My runs get down to a 1/4" bend radius in places and it seems to work just fine. Bend-insensitive fiber is definitely useful, but it may not be required for the run one is planning. Though, one thing that regular OM4 is not is discreet. That two-strand cabling in its aqua-colored jacket is quite distinctive.