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> an encyclopedia that, to be honest, is about as unbiased, astroturf-free, and low barrier of entry as you can get. I recently read an article about a notable

> an encyclopedia that, to be honest, is about as unbiased, astroturf-free, and low barrier of entry as you can get. I recently read an article about a notable person. The article attacked her personal appearance as having "Mar-a-Lago Face". I'm certain it was backed up with quality "sources". The outrageous part is that description linked to a deranged multi-page article explaining what that is, written by who I assume must be the most terminally-online basement-dwelling losers on planet Earth. So I'm going to disagree with you.

thrance 5mo ago
Surely, you must have taken on yourself to correct this blatant mistake (that you curiously won't link to)? Can you name this "notable person"?
- wlonkly 5mo ago
  I was also curious. It looks like it's probably Kristy Noem[1], and the citations are to The Week and the NYT: > Noem has since become one of the most prominent examples of so-called "Mar-a-Lago face", a cosmetic surgery trend among conservative women,[370][371] also known as "Republican makeup".[372] Is [370] pushing it for a biography of a living person? Yeah, probably, especially with the "one of the most prominent" and "so-called" in there. But since "Mar-a-Lago face" has its own, cited Wikipedia entry... maybe not? It's not like Wikipedians made up the term, they're citing that _others_ use that term for her. I'm not sure how I'd phrase it to say that she is a prominent example of the plastic surgery common to the Republican inner circle, and reference the "Mar-a-Lago Face" article, without attributing the phrase to her plastic surgery. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristi_Noem#Religion_and_public_image https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristi_Noem#Religion_and_publi... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_face https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_face [370] https://theweek.com/health/mar-a-lago-face-the-hottest-maga-plastic-surgery-trend https://theweek.com/health/mar-a-lago-face-the-hottest-maga-... [371] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/20/style/kristi-noem-teeth-trump-vice-president.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/20/style/kristi-noem-teeth-t... [372] https://www.thelist.com/1796655/politicians-reporters-republican-makeup/ https://www.thelist.com/1796655/politicians-reporters-republ...

thrance 5mo ago

Surely, you must have taken on yourself to correct this blatant mistake (that you curiously won't link to)? Can you name this "notable person"?

wlonkly 5mo ago
I was also curious. It looks like it's probably Kristy Noem[1], and the citations are to The Week and the NYT: > Noem has since become one of the most prominent examples of so-called "Mar-a-Lago face", a cosmetic surgery trend among conservative women,[370][371] also known as "Republican makeup".[372] Is [370] pushing it for a biography of a living person? Yeah, probably, especially with the "one of the most prominent" and "so-called" in there. But since "Mar-a-Lago face" has its own, cited Wikipedia entry... maybe not? It's not like Wikipedians made up the term, they're citing that _others_ use that term for her. I'm not sure how I'd phrase it to say that she is a prominent example of the plastic surgery common to the Republican inner circle, and reference the "Mar-a-Lago Face" article, without attributing the phrase to her plastic surgery. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristi_Noem#Religion_and_public_image https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristi_Noem#Religion_and_publi... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_face https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_face [370] https://theweek.com/health/mar-a-lago-face-the-hottest-maga-plastic-surgery-trend https://theweek.com/health/mar-a-lago-face-the-hottest-maga-... [371] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/20/style/kristi-noem-teeth-trump-vice-president.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/20/style/kristi-noem-teeth-t... [372] https://www.thelist.com/1796655/politicians-reporters-republican-makeup/ https://www.thelist.com/1796655/politicians-reporters-republ...