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There's evidence various third-party models (including Deepseek) used distilling in training, based on models from those leading services. So they have more fle
by Springtime 4mo ago
There's evidence various third-party models (including Deepseek) used distilling in training, based on models from those leading services. So they have more flexibility with pricing.
- behnamoh 4mo agoSo? And Anthropic/OpenAI literally stole copyrighted content to train their models.
- Springtime 4mo agoThe point was that distilling based on others' models for training means they're not spending the same amount on R&D and/or training, giving them headroom in other ways (responding to the parent's point). It wasn't a comment reflecting on copyright/fair use.
- behnamoh 4mo agoIn the same fashion, Anthropic/OpenAI also reduced their training cost by not purchasing the license to copyrighted work and stealing it instead.
- malnourish 4mo agoIs that fundamentally any different than what e.g., Meta and OpenAI have done? Besides, hasn't SCotUS ruled that raw LLM output isn't subject to copyright? So these companies would be breaking a ToS at worst.