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It does seem most of the pro-AI people aren't actually affected by any of the negative aspects of it. It's a lot easier to be in favor of something that doesn't
by pesus 5mo ago
It does seem most of the pro-AI people aren't actually affected by any of the negative aspects of it. It's a lot easier to be in favor of something that doesn't actually affect you or anyone you care about.
- rcpt 5mo agoMost everybody isn't affected by data center build outs.
- pesus 5mo agoMaybe not, but the people near them sure are. And the majority of people are definitely impacted by the downstream effects.
- rcpt 5mo agoThey really aren't.
- pesus 5mo agoVery well thought out argument, I'm sure spamming it some more will really convince people. You're telling me people aren't affected by AI in any way whatsoever? That's a very bold and obviously untrue claim. No wonder people don't trust AI sycophants, you can't even keep your story straight.
- rcpt 5mo agoThe water usage is floating point error compared to ethanol and the electricity prices near the centers are some of the cheapest you can get. In terms of the physical world this is maybe the lowest impact industry in history.
- georgemcbay 5mo agoSome people have empathy for those who are, even if they are not. I don't live anywhere near SpaceX's methane monstrosity in Memphis, but I still think it shouldn't exist because of the negative impact it has on the people who live near it. And I still think Anthropic became fully complicit by renting it out.
- 47282847 5mo agoI often see empathy being mentioned in places where I can totally see the self-preservation link: if other people are negatively affected, it will sooner or later also affect me personally negatively. I am totally fine with seeing empathy and compassion as tools for self-preservation, without assigning any morality to it. Unless I kill you and all of your tribe and anyone else who cares about you, not caring about your needs will backfire on me. It simply makes rational sense to see what you need and make you happy so I can stay happy too.
- whamlastxmas 5mo agoWhat negative impact is that? For context there are only five houses within half a mile of xAI's data center, the building for which has been there for decades, and any homes in the area have been living by the existing giant natural gas power plant next door to the data center for 20+ years. It's really not introducing anything that hasn't been there forever
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- Tanoc 5mo agoIt appears to be not so much about the datacenters themselves as it is limiting the growth capabilities for the LLMs. From their understanding fewer datacenters means more congestion which means less possibility LLMs can be shoved into more places where the public thinks they are intrusive. Which seems to be everywhere.
- rcpt 5mo agoCan't put new technology back in the box. We don't build the chips or even the machines that build the machines that build the chips. We don't own all the rare earths and our ability to generate electricity isn't anything special. The data centers are getting built. Up to us if it's in Utah or overseas.
- expedition32 5mo agoExcept the people living next to them but they don't count because reasons.
- rcpt 5mo agoNo they aren't.
- cratermoon 5mo agoEveryone pays for the negative externalities of these outsized water- and electricity-sucking, noise- and heat-generating monuments to greed and charlatanism.
- umeshunni 5mo agoVery similar to the pro-illegal immigration crowd