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On the countrary, nonprofits need unions more than for profits. They exploit their workers more. They have fewer resources and exploit their mission to get more
by hiddencost 4mo ago
On the countrary, nonprofits need unions more than for profits. They exploit their workers more. They have fewer resources and exploit their mission to get more work from their workers.
- legitster 4mo agoIf I'm donating money to fight cancer, and the majority of the money goes to administrative staff, that's inherently a flawed charity. It's exactly what led to the downfall of the Susan G Komen foundation. There's also a death spiral problem. If donations drop and administrative costs stay the same, that charity's ratings only get worse. There's a reason most examples of successful non-profit unions all rely on steady streams of government grant funding.
- skywhopper 4mo agoWhat do you think the core purpose of the Wikipedia Foundation is? Do you think the engineers who write the code and operate the site are “administrative staff”?
- appreciatorBus 4mo agoIf a new software or hardware innovation came along that would allow the engineers to operate the site 2x more efficiently, thus saving the foundation and it's donors a significant amount of money, would the union support it or fight it?
- jp_sc 4mo agoIs there any charity (older than five years) where the majority of the money doesn’t go to administrative staff?
- pas 4mo agoyes, check program expense ratios https://www.charitynavigator.org/discover-charities/best-charities/cost-effective-organizations https://www.charitynavigator.org/discover-charities/best-cha... but see also https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/blog/arent-the-best-charities-those-with-the-lowest-overhead-costs#why-arent-overhead-costs-a-good-measure-of-a-charitys-impact https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/blog/arent-the-best-charitie... and https://www.givewell.org/ https://www.givewell.org/
- iririririr 4mo agothis is all insane. it assumes you want charity forever! the initial assumption is already wrong. also, back on topic: Executive Salaries Position Salary (Annual) Ex-CEO (Katherine Maher) $789,495 COO (Janeen Uzzell) $503,844 CFO (Jaime Villagomez) $386,433 General Counsel (Amanda Keton) $396,514 Current Highest Salaries Position Salary (Annual) Software Engineering Manager $164,080 Technical Program Manager $159,200 Senior Software Engineer $109,513 Product Designer $95,972 Additional Salary Insights The median total compensation for employees at the Wikimedia Foundation is approximately $109,513.
- pas 4mo agodid you mean to reply to my comment? if yes, can I ask you to explain what do you mean by assumption? where is that coming from? regarding WMF (and other non-profits, like Mozilla), this is a well-known phenomenon - regarding C-suite compensation (it's usually about risk aversion, and that the board or whatever foundations have, is also usually sitting on other non-profits, and rarely they optimize by moving to the cheapest place and hiring folks for much cheaper, etc)
- whimsicalism 4mo agoYes, workers in non-profits are status-compensated as well as monetarily compensated. I don't think this is an argument for non-profit unionization.
- wsve 4mo ago"status-compensated"?
- whimsicalism 4mo agopeople enjoy doing high-status things and will trade off pay for status. asking for equal pay as low-status work is essentially asking to have your cake and eat it too
- 20after4 4mo agoIs working for Wikipedia somehow a higher status job than working for Google? edit: I'm asking because my 7 year stint as an engineer at Wikipedia hasn't provided me with an endless stream of lucrative job offers.
- whimsicalism 4mo agoabsolutely and i'm surprised that you don't think so. e: and to your edit, i'm talking about social/moral status
- harimau777 4mo agoCan you explain what you mean by social/moral status? I haven't seen a big run of non-profit workers marrying movie stars or becoming Pope.
- jonas21 4mo agoIsn't the Pope like the canonical high-status non-profit worker?